February 2022 - VoiceOps - lists.voiceops.org

SS7 Landscape
by voiceops＠ics-il.net Oct. 24, 2023

Oct. 24, 2023

We currently get our SS7 via TNS. I (maybe incorrectly) understand them to be a big dog in that space. I've had two major problems with them in six months. What are my alternatives? Are they less pleasant? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com

11 31

SentryPeer: A distributed peer to peer list of bad IP addresses and phone numbers collected via a SIP Honeypot
by ghenry＠suretec.co.uk July 4, 2023

July 4, 2023

Hi all, I hope you don't mind the post, but thought this might be of use and in the spirit of release early, release often I've done an alpha release: https://github.com/SentryPeer/SentryPeer There's a presentation too if you'd like to watch/read where I hope to go with this: https://blog.tadsummit.com/2021/11/17/sentrypeer/ Working on the API and web UI next, then the p2p part of it. Feel free to submit any feature requests or have a play :-) Thanks for reading and any feedback is welcome! -- Kind Regards, Gavin Henry.

4 9

CNAM Storage
by m.rys＠rystec.com March 6, 2022

March 6, 2022

any advise from fellow CLEC's out there on CNAM storage? We've been up an running for years but never had access to change the Caller Name of our customers in the database in the sky. I spoke to neustar (who we use for CNAM lookups) and they gave me a price for CNAM storage database access that seemed rather steep. I was curious if any of you had any recommendations Thanks in advance. Marc Rys Rystec / Tri-Lakes Internet 417-973-0136

3 2

VoIP SMS Campaign Fees
by nate＠blastcomm.com Feb. 23, 2022

Feb. 23, 2022

Sorry if this was already discussed and I missed it. I saw a notice on our Voip Innovations account today that any business DID's that send SMS messages to a consumer in any way now have to be registered with 'Campaignregistry.com' Looks like this requires a $200 signup, and then potentially $10/month/DID. Anyone already gone through this? Talking to VI, it seems they're not even sure, but it's a VI requirement to be registered by Dec 15. The whole process seems confusing. VI Makes it seem like non-compliance will be expensive. $10,000/violation keeps being referenced. Would each one of my customers be considered a separate campaign at $10/month?

9 9

VoIP SMS Campaign Fees
by caalvarez＠gmail.com Feb. 23, 2022

Feb. 23, 2022

On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 12:35 PM Peter Beckman <beckman at angryox.com> wrote: > > I think you overestimate the technical prowress of a small laudromat who > simply wants to notify customers that their laundry is ready! > No, it's the reverse. Because they have no ability to do this, they outsource it. And *that* company is the one that abuses you on their behalf and for others who pay them to. Everyone I know gets text spam except me.

1 0

SMS Termination and Toll Free SMS
by marylou＠backuptelecom.com Feb. 11, 2022

Feb. 11, 2022

I've had a lot of people asking about SMS and Toll-Free SMS Termination providers lately. That's one space I haven't gotten into, but I would like to be able to refer people to someone that can help. Anyone care to share which SMS and Toll-Free SMS termination providers they like working with? MARY LOU CAREY BackUP Telecom Consulting Office: 615-791-9969 Cell: 615-796-1111

2 1

Toll Free Messaging: As Hard or Harder than 10DLC?
by beckman＠angryox.com Feb. 8, 2022

Feb. 8, 2022

Toll Free SMS used to be not a problem, turn it on and you're done. Slightly higher per-SMS Rates, no free inbound. Businesses could use them and have no issues with A2P vs P2P and registering a 10DLC campaign, etc. Lately random non-direct carriers are turning off SMS without notification, leading to our customers complaining, and then we're told that they need to fill out a "Know Your Customer" (KYC) form with company name, contact, use case, domains, etc. It's a terrible customer experience for us and our end users. I have a bunch of small business customers using Toll Free SMS. - 25% use automation, sending out in-house notifications and Two-Factor Auth to their contractors, 200-500 outgoing messages per month. - 50% are sent/received by a human, 10-100 outbound per month. Followups to Voicemails, website leads on their own site, or existing client/customer communication - 25% just use it to receive SMS messages from their vendors, and occasionally use it for business related, like 0-20 outbound per month. What organization(s) is/are requiring this informal, seemingly non-standard process of registration for Toll Free SMS? Why does it take 2-5 business days to read it and turn it on, either initially or after a shutoff? Why are messaging carriers shutting down existing Toll Free SMS without notifying the direct carrier, underlying carrier, or even end user of the action??? RANT The per-message carrier fees are frustrating. Worse on 10DLC than Toll Free. I know they are trying to dissuade bad actors, but it also hurts small business. But what is really insane is the cost of 10DLC, and increasingly the time and silent disconnection until "KYC'd" of SMS on Toll Free. Toll Free SMS is still better than 10DLC, but 72-hours to get a previously-approved-on-one-carrier campaign re-approved on a new carrier hurts small businesses. The whole "use case" document for a few hundred outbound SMS messages a month, sending to existing customers and new website generated leads and calls is overkill. Don't get me started on 10DLC via TCR (The Campaign Registry). $200.00 NRC Carrier Registration just to register campaigns on behalf of customers $4.00 NRC Brand Registration Fee $10.00 MRC 2FA $10.00 MRC Account Notifications $10.00 MRC Conversational Messaging (WTF?!?) $10.00 MRC Low Volume Mixed (WTF?!?) + Random fees (e.g. $40+ to Aegis + 7 day wait) to increase your "Trust Score" so you can send more messages + What if I switch to another provider in the future, will I need to re-register? Yes! As mentioned, each messaging provider is its own unique CSP (Campaign Service Provider). Therefore, you would need to go through the same process with the new provider when switching over. So, switch carriers? Re-pay to re-register all your campaigns. SUMMARY What carriers are you using for Toll Free SMS, and what hoops are you finding that are increasing your time and energy to get working? Beckman PS -- If you use ZipWhip, they are shutting down -- where are you going instead? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Beckman Internet Guy beckman at angryox.com https://www.angryox.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

2 1

NetNumber CarrierID Access, Indirect / Reseller
by beckman＠angryox.com Feb. 3, 2022

Feb. 3, 2022

I'd like access to NetNumber CarrierID API to ensure that NNIDs (SMS Routing) for our DIDs are correct and do not change unexpectedly, with or without authorization. NetNumber charges $500 per month minimum, which is more than I'd like to spend. The per-API or per-DID call (not sure which yet) is $0.0007 each. Is there any company that offers the same access at a per-API-call or per-DID-call rate? If not, and I start one, are there carriers/services out there that do not yet have access but would like/need it, or do have it but are spending more than they would like to access it? This really would just be a pass-thru API service to begin. Beckman --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Beckman Internet Guy beckman at angryox.com https://www.angryox.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

3 2

whatsapp integhration
by igoldstein＠telego.net Feb. 2, 2022

Feb. 2, 2022

has anyone successfully setup integration with whatsapp can share with me off list some "getting started" steps ? -- Izzy Goldstein Chief Technology Officer - DevOps Master Main: (212) 477-1000 x 2085 <(212)%20477-1000> Direct: (929) 477-2085 Website: www.telego.com <http://www.telego.net/> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient or have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately by email reply and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of TeleGo (T). Employees of TeleGo are expressly required not to make defamatory statements and not to infringe or authorize any infringement of copyright or any other legal right by email communications. Any such communication is contrary to TeleGo policy and outside the scope of the employment of the individual concerned. TeleGo will not accept any liability in respect of such communication, and the employee responsible will be personally liable for any damages or other liability arising. TeleGo Hosted PBX <https://youtu.be/DaT8YAZ4V0w>

1 0

T-Mobile Originated Calls - No Ringback
by gkuri＠ieee.org Feb. 1, 2022

Feb. 1, 2022

I'm not sure if this has come up here before, I couldn't find anything specific, but I'm seeing an issue where calls originating from T-Mobile to other carriers are not generating ringback. The call is indeed ringing on the other end, but on the T-Mobile phone, it's just dead air until the person on the other end answers the call. It's not all calls, but it is reproducible to certain phone numbers and reproducible using various T-Mobile customers. It's not limited to a single phone T-Mobile number/customer. Further troubleshooting has shown that calls from other providers (ie AT&T, Verizon Wireless) do not have this problem to the same numbers the issue can be reproduced from T-Mobile. It's only calls from T-Mobile numbers to other phone numbers outside of T-Mobile so far. The no ringback issue seems to occur whether you're on wifi calling or on a cell tower. All of the T-Mobile users we can reproduce the issue with are in Southern California. Not sure if any of this matters. I tried to deal with customer service and opened a ticket that supposedly was escalated to engineering, but of course that fell on deaf ears and the response I got was basically "Can't reproduce, it's not our problem" 8-/ ... Any T-Mobile engineers on this list that could help or any recommendations on how to raise attention to this problem to someone at T-Mobile with a clue? Gabe

3 3