My faith in STIR/SHAKEN has all but collapsed. I think we're just going to end up in a situation where even the SPAM is attested. At least having a breadcrumb to follow might help. Given the current state of SS. I won't hold my breath. On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 12:44 PM Karl Douthit <karl at piratel.com> wrote:
Stir will only help if carriers actually pass or allow tokens. Still waiting on several tier 1 carriers to take them.
On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 9:35 AM Glen Gerhard <glen at cognexus.net> wrote:
Hopefully Stir/Shaken will make this a moot point. Calvin, are you saying that a 608 is the recommended response for a call that is being rejected due to S/S attestation or CVT reasons?
~Glen
On 2/16/2021 8:19 AM, Calvin Ellison wrote:
Today we received a notice from one of our underlying carriers that included the following statement:
* If a customer spoofs an ANI that they do not own, the clec's can
forward to call to a voiceless Voicemail which appears to be FAS.
Is there any legal device that actually supports this practice? I'm looking for a specific statute, FCC rule, precedent in a judicial ruling, or the like.
The FCC has ruled that the SIP 608 response code is to be used for signaling when a call is rejected. I doubt the FCC or FTC has ruled that terminating carriers are permitted to cause loss of trust and revenue between upstream intermediate and originating carriers.
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