OP makes his own points against it, and none for. As we add more and more short numbers and possibly NPAs, the 9 becomes more problematic. And is there really a switch out there in use today that needs it? We have to kill old paradigms to move ahead. On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 11:04 PM Ross Tajvar <ross at tajvar.io> wrote:
re: dialing 9 - I understand the plight of having to deal with legacy expectations, but what's the point of sticking with this particular one? What makes it not-useless?
On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 12:29 AM Hunter Fuller <hf0002+nanog at uah.edu> wrote:
We operate a system with the "dial 9" scheme (apparently "useless" according to other posters - a truly insightful attitude that I love to see on this list), so I can say that the expectation definitely is NOT for people to dial 9911. In fact, there is a whole law about it, which, like many, is written in blood: https://www.fcc.gov/news-events/podcast/personal-story-behind-karis-law
The difference is, if someone picks up a phone and dials 911, they want 911. They don't want an "outside line" so that they can dial a NANP 10-digit number beginning in 11, because no such number exists. The problem is, such numbers DO exist that begin with 88, so, we are in a bit of a pickle there. It seems the only solution is to do a timeout... yeesh. (Unless I'm missing something.)
Dialing 911 directly (not 9911, but just 911) has always worked here, long before Kari's Law, and it works without delay, as it should. I'd love to make 988 work the same way but I'm just not sure how to accomplish that.
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On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 11:21 AM Brandon Svec <bsvec at teamonesolutions.com> wrote:
It shouldn't be much different than 911. 9911 and 911 can both work
just as 9988 and 988 can both work fine with most any PBX that can translate dial plan digits.
There is potential conflict with systems that can't handle inter-digit
timeouts to allow both 988 and 9888-555-1212, I guess. But in that case I suppose the expectation would be to dial 9988 and 9911 already..
Brandon
On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 8:10 AM Zilk, David <David.Zilk at cdk.com> wrote:
How are folks dealing with allowing calls to 9-8-8 when an access
code of 9 is used. Does this not cause a conflict when calling toll free numbers beginning with an NPA of 88x?
David
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