I don't mean to be a Negative Nancy, but I am concerned that some of may not realise how many times this conversation has played out before, in various permutations. The PSTN is dead, long live the PSTN, etc. The enthusiastic proclamation of a forum/vehicle/working committee/consortium/federation/association for Truly Next Generation VoIP Peering, For Real This Time--sometimes with great fanfare--is at least a once-annual occurrence, if not more often. In the end, it always dies and withers away, because in the end, nobody really cares what a consortium of small operators think. Without buy-in from a major-league industry actor, the one-year survival rate on these visionary initiatives is extremely low. I'm not saying it shouldn't be tried again. I would just be realistic about the possibilities for large, cosmological-type change. The reality is that almost all ITSPs make and receive almost all of their calls to and from the PSTN, in one way or another. As long as that's the case, there won't be the critical mass for anyone to sponsor Truly Next Generation VoIP Peering, For Real This Time. -- Alex -- Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC 303 Perimeter Center North, Suite 300 Atlanta, GA 30346 United States Tel: +1-800-250-5920 (toll-free) / +1-678-954-0671 (direct) Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.csrpswitch.com/