LERG 6 also has a portable indicator so you can tie into that when you are pulling information from NPAC, but you can also tell somewhat because all 10 thousand blocks of the non-portable blocks are only assigned to one carrier. There are still many rural areas that are not in mandatory pooling areas because the NPA doesn't warrant it! Mary Lou Carey BackUP Telecom Consulting 615-791-9969
On August 19, 2015 at 1:37 PM Kidd Filby <kiddfilby at gmail.com> wrote:
I know there are certain areas around the country that are not portable for a few reasons. One reason is when they are served off of a remote switch, they have elaborate e911 trunking schemes and must remain on that switch to properly function in an isolation-type scenario.
Kidd
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com <mailto:abalashov at evaristesys.com> > wrote:
?Aren't 95%+ rate centres pooled these days? If so, they'd still have LRNs, since LRN-guided routing is a requirement of pooling. So, who still has non-pooled 10K blocks? Is that common in metro, or largely a trait of rural LECs?
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Sent from my BlackBerry. From: James Milko Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 13:32 To: Alex Balashov Cc: VoiceOps Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed accuracy
NPAC has a service type field that indicates wireless/wireline. That doesn't solve for native numbers though since they won't have LRN data since they don't have LRNs. I don't remember offhand if LERG has a wireless/wireline indication for a given [A]OCN or block.
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On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com <mailto:abalashov at evaristesys.com> > wrote: > > > ?Indeed, you'd start from the NPAC, which would get you, for a > > > given TN, an LRN. Then what?
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Sent from my BlackBerry. Original Message From: Kidd Filby Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:52 To: Carlos Alvarez Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org <mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed accuracy
If I were to offer this service or database access, I would start with my own local copy of NPAC that I'd update every X-minutes a day. This product is available now and has been for a while. This is the only sure-way, I know of, to have the most accurate data to work from.
Kidd
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Carlos Alvarez <caalvarez at gmail.com <mailto:caalvarez at gmail.com> > wrote: I have a customer in market research who is legally required to manually dial calls to cell phones. Right now they are considering abandoning all of their auto/predictive dialer software and going to manual dial for everything, because the list-scrubbing services have been shown to be inaccurate. There are extreme penalties for auto-dialing a cell phone, and "best effort" is NOT a defense to this, at all. For example, Gallup just settle a claim for $12M.
So they need a totally accurate way to prevent a cell phone call from originating from their dialer. The only thing I can think of is some sort of LRN dip + LRN-to-carrier-type response. One of their people talked to Neustar, but didn't get great answers because he doesn't really understand telephony. Before I get in touch with Neustar, I thought I'd see if people here have some ideas.
If you provide a commercial product for this, please feel free to tell me so on or off list, the customer is willing to pay for the service and we're open to all options. I don't have a budget number yet but manual dialing is going to cost them quite a bit for some types of studies.
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