Thanks to all who've answered I guess I could have been more specific so apologies. What are some options for inbound redundancy. Outbound is not an issue as I can swap off from my end on my routes out however, what does one do for inbound failures. I *heard* from my carrier that an option would be designed (sales talk mainly) for inbound redundancy. I would think a top level carrier (don't want to get into definitions of Tier1, etc.) - I would think they'd have a back-out change management plan on hand, but that to me has proven to be non-existent. (Replacing an entire switch to notice it failed 5 hours later at the start of a business day is not cool). My thoughts, review the SLA's and come up with a MTD (Maximum Tolerable Downtime) and the whole shtick of wording, payments, etc in which they'd likely shrug at - at the end of the day. From my standpoint (engineered): Redundant connectivity (check) Redundant equipment on hand (check) Redundant outbound links (check) Redundant inbound links (sort of checked) On my inbound links, I've DID's across carriers, but this does not (as we know) provide redundancy for me when one inbound carrier does fail. "Hi Global?, can you take these L3 DID's for me. I have their engineers ready to shoot you 4 million minutes in traffic until they get their act together. k thanks!" Wish it worked that way. -- =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ J. Oquendo SGFA, SGFE, C|EH, CNDA, CHFI, OSCP "It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to ruin it. If you think about that, you'll do things differently." - Warren Buffett 227C 5D35 7DCB 0893 95AA 4771 1DCE 1FD1 5CCD 6B5E http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x5CCD6B5E