They still do it....I just helped a client connect with them recently. All the PSTN Connection providers prefer that CLECs get certified as IPES providers though because AT&T and Lumen (fka CenturyLink) will only allow the PSTN connection providers to add IPES NXXs to their existing trunks. AT&T and Lumen make the PSTN connection providers install separate trunk groups for CLEC NXXs. MARY LOU CAREY BackUP Telecom Consulting Office: 615-791-9969 Cell: 615-796-1111 On 2021-02-09 12:43 PM, Jared Geiger wrote:
Wide Voice used to run the PSTN connectivity (they may still do it, I haven't investigated) for FreeConferenceCall.com and other similar services. They probably had to change up the business model when intercarrier compensation rates dried up.
On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 3:55 PM Mike Hammett <voiceops at ics-il.net> wrote:
That's the first I've heard of Wide Voice. Their network looks little sparse at the moment. I wonder if it's on-demand, as in once you inquire about a LATA, they build it out.
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From: "Mary Lou Carey" <marylou at backuptelecom.com> To: "Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net> Cc: "VoiceOps" <voiceops at voiceops.org> Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 5:33:19 PM Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Connecting to Remote Tandems
You can get a PSTN Connection Service from Peerless or Wide Voice. Inteliquent used to offer that service but they have backed away from it recently.
To make it simple, you have to get certified as an Interconnected VOIP carrier and then set up SIP trunks with your PSTN Connection provider. You order a POI CLLI and LRN NXX for every LATA that you want to enter and point your traffic to the PSTN Connection provider's switch in the LERG. You still have all your own NXXs and LRNs, but you can get rid of your SS7 network because the PSTN Connection Service Provider handles that piece. You still do all your own porting and maintain all your connections with 911, LD, VOIP providers. If you want more information on how it all works, just message me privately.
MARY LOU CAREY BackUP Telecom Consulting Office: 615-791-9969 Cell: 615-796-1111
On 2021-02-08 03:35 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Due to receiving several offlist e-mails about this point, I wanted to point out that I'm not looking to do SIP directly to an ILEC tandem. I assume there would be some abstraction layer happening by a third party.
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From: "Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net> To: "VoiceOps" <voiceops at voiceops.org> Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 9:24:57 AM Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Connecting to Remote Tandems
I did want to circle back on this.
I am currently a CLEC with traditional voice services in a single LATA on a single set of tandems. We have SS7, do our own porting, etc. I understand that going interconnected VoIP (instead of CLEC) may be easier for my expansions.
So that I don't have to drag T1s all over the place, what options do I have in front of me? To be clear, I am looking for specific providers and products, even off-list solicitations.
I'm not afraid of T1s, they're just expensive. I got a quote for a single T1 to the facility where the other tandem in our LATA is, and it was far more expensive than just sending the calls out our termination providers. If I need more than one T1 (one for each tandem), then I'm really priced out of the market. Obviously that course of action wouldn't help me for my own number blocks.
I looked at straight DID\minute services, but as some of our past (and potential future) customers have several hundreds of DIDs compared to the amount of traffic they'd have, that gets a difficult to operate in.
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From: "Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net> To: "VoiceOps" <voiceops at voiceops.org> Sent: Friday, August 9, 2019 2:42:37 PM Subject: [VoiceOps] Connecting to Remote Tandems
I'm evaluating methods of extending our footprint. I purposely left out company names.
One of the companies we talked to was really only interested in getting us the inbound long distance calls, not the local ones. Well, they would, but the terms were vastly different.
Given that I still need to build out to connect to the local tandem, what's the point in using a third party to connect to long distance?
Are the terms for connecting to the local tandems different because the access tandem is simpler, whereas the local tandem could potentially involve connections to a bunch of other switches, once volume dictated I needed direct connections... and they don't want to deal with that?
Are there third parties that don't have vastly different terms for local tandem services?
Also, is it likely that I just don't understand what's going on? I went circles with the sales rep to make sure I understood what he was saying, but I could be wrong.
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