$3.19 is right around 24% of 33.4% of $39.95. Maybe Comcast's traffic studies show that 24% of phone traffic is interstate, so that's the amount that gets the USF charge? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Yaklin" <myaklin at firstlight.net> To: "Peter Beckman" <beckman at angryox.com>, "Ed Guy" <edguy at eguy.org> Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 3:07:53 PM Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021 A comcast business package looks like this right now for a small biz: Internet - 69.95 Voice line - 39.95 Voice equipment fee - 18.45 (that is hilarious to convert their coax signal to fxs) FUSF - 3.19 Regulatory cost recovery - 1.36 Voice network investment - 3.00 (wtf) Directory listing mgmt fee - 2.00 Sales tax - 4.22 911 fees - 1.50 Grand total - 143.62 Where and how is that 3.19 calculated? I am curious as well. Matt -----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps <voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org> On Behalf Of Peter Beckman Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 3:58 PM To: Ed Guy <edguy at eguy.org> Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021 Ed -- I'd love to see more data on this. Where did your understanding come from? I looked at my cellular bill last night, and on 4 lines, the "Fed Universal Service Charge" was a total of $1.88 on a total bill of about $180 (about $160 of it was just the monthly fee for 4 plans). Does anyone know how the wireless companies pay USF? E.g. they are paying 33.4% on what exactly? Beckman On Thu, 10 Jun 2021, Ed Guy wrote:
What service features of the service are subject to USF? is it only charged on retail land-line replacement or at multiple levels as a value-add? My understanding is that cellular services do not pay USF ( but, when we had a cell company several years ago, all taxes were outsourced..)
On 6/10/21, 1:07 PM, "VoiceOps on behalf of Alex Balashov" <voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org on behalf of abalashov at evaristesys.com> wrote:
That, and, while I am not at all an expert on what can and can't be recovered from customers, it was my impression that not 100% of USF can be passed on.
On 6/10/21 1:03 PM, Carlos Alvarez wrote:
Except that some of us specifically sell "bottom line" pricing that is not variable and not padded with 20 lines of fees and taxes. Because our ILEC is known for quoting $100 and billing $130-150 actual price.
On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 9:38 AM Paul Timmins <paul at timmins.net> wrote:
On 6/10/21 6:23 AM, Alex Balashov wrote:
Yeah, observing it as an outsider who is not a service provider,
I'm a
little shocked to say the least. It's hard to understand where that kind of money is supposed to come from with the margins in this business.
Passthru fees to the end user, duh. There's nothing us telcos can't cram on the bottom of the bill.
Customers are gonna be ticked, but what ya gonna do. It's a line item now, and a line item later.
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