Is anyone else seeing odd routing when calling Goldfield Telecom in Iowa? Yes, I'm almost positive no one here has had that need. Today when I call from Sprint, I get a guy that just keeps saying, "Hello". When I call with T-Mobile, I get through to the desired conference brdige. When I call with US Cellular, I get a lady's voicemail. I'm using the Google Fi service to call out from. I just tried via Pac-West\Impact Telecom and it wouldn't go through. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com
On 12/31/19 09:16, Mike Hammett wrote:
Is anyone else seeing odd routing when calling Goldfield Telecom in Iowa? Yes, I'm almost positive no one here has had that need.
Today when I call from Sprint, I get a guy that just keeps saying, "Hello".
When I call with T-Mobile, I get through to the desired conference brdige.
When I call with US Cellular, I get a lady's voicemail.
It could be one of those tiny rural traffic-pumping exchanges with ridiculous termination fees. If so I wouldn't expect anyone to put a lot of effort into fixing it. -- Jay Hennigan - jay at west.net Network Engineering - CCIE #7880 503 897-8550 - WB6RDV
The entity I'm calling is based out of Goldfield, so in this particular case, it isn't malicious. I'm not going to deny that there could be other malicious uses of that exchange. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Hennigan" <jay at west.net> To: voiceops at voiceops.org Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 12:42:55 PM Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Odd Routing to Iowa On 12/31/19 09:16, Mike Hammett wrote:
Is anyone else seeing odd routing when calling Goldfield Telecom in Iowa? Yes, I'm almost positive no one here has had that need.
Today when I call from Sprint, I get a guy that just keeps saying, "Hello".
When I call with T-Mobile, I get through to the desired conference brdige.
When I call with US Cellular, I get a lady's voicemail.
It could be one of those tiny rural traffic-pumping exchanges with ridiculous termination fees. If so I wouldn't expect anyone to put a lot of effort into fixing it. -- Jay Hennigan - jay at west.net Network Engineering - CCIE #7880 503 897-8550 - WB6RDV _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
Could it have something to do with the FCC sounding the death knell for access stimulation? "their end user relationships with high volume calling providers were terminated" https://prodnet.www.neca.org/publicationsdocs/wwpdf/fcc1994.pdf from: NECA Washington Watch <WashingtonWatch at neca.org> reply-to: WashingtonWatch at neca.org to: calvin.ellison at voxox.com date: Dec 31, 2019, 10:30 AM subject: Washington Watch 12.31.2019 Access Stimulation Carriers File Notices on Access Stimulation BTC <https://prodnet.www.neca.org/publicationsdocs/wwpdf/123019btc.pdf>, Goldfield Access Network <https://prodnet.www.neca.org/publicationsdocs/wwpdf/123019gold.pdf> and Louisa Communications <https://prodnet.www.neca.org/publicationsdocs/wwpdf/123019louisa.pdf> filed letters on December 27, 2019, to notify the FCC they have terminated their participation in access stimulation as defined in the September 2019 order <https://prodnet.www.neca.org/publicationsdocs/wwpdf/fcc1994.pdf>, and effective December 25, 2019, their end user relationships with high volume calling providers were terminated. Regards, *Calvin Ellison* Senior Voice Operations Engineer calvin.ellison at voxox.com +1 (213) 285-0555 ----------------------------------------------- *voxox.com <http://www.voxox.com/> * 5825 Oberlin Drive, Suite 5 San Diego, CA 92121 [image: Voxox] On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 11:03 AM Mike Hammett <voiceops at ics-il.net> wrote:
The entity I'm calling is based out of Goldfield, so in this particular case, it isn't malicious. I'm not going to deny that there could be other malicious uses of that exchange.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com
------------------------------ *From: *"Jay Hennigan" <jay at west.net> *To: *voiceops at voiceops.org *Sent: *Tuesday, December 31, 2019 12:42:55 PM *Subject: *Re: [VoiceOps] Odd Routing to Iowa
On 12/31/19 09:16, Mike Hammett wrote:
Is anyone else seeing odd routing when calling Goldfield Telecom in Iowa? Yes, I'm almost positive no one here has had that need.
Today when I call from Sprint, I get a guy that just keeps saying, "Hello".
When I call with T-Mobile, I get through to the desired conference brdige.
When I call with US Cellular, I get a lady's voicemail.
It could be one of those tiny rural traffic-pumping exchanges with ridiculous termination fees. If so I wouldn't expect anyone to put a lot of effort into fixing it.
-- Jay Hennigan - jay at west.net Network Engineering - CCIE #7880 503 897-8550 - WB6RDV _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
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In article <1464181553.3249.1577818986090.JavaMail.mhammett at ThunderFuck> you write:
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The entity I'm calling is based out of Goldfield, so in this particular case, it isn't malicious. I'm not going to deny that there could be other malicious uses of that exchange.
Adding to the confusion, Goldfield Telecom sells and installs telco equipment. Their local phone company is an apparently unrelated entity called Goldfield Telephone, with a web site at www.goldfieldaccess.net with an expired SSL certificate. It's a tiny single switch RLEC. If they have a conference bridge, that screams traffic pumping.
Yes, I did conflate Goldfield Telecom with Goldfield Telephone in the original post. Sorry. The site with the busted SSL also seems to have been hijacked. The first several times I tried getting to it, it redirected me to a bunch of BS. I did find this site: http://www.goldfieldaccess-ia.com/ ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Levine" <johnl at taugh.com> To: voiceops at voiceops.org Cc: voiceops at ics-il.net Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 1:16:38 PM Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Odd Routing to Iowa In article <1464181553.3249.1577818986090.JavaMail.mhammett at ThunderFuck> you write:
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The entity I'm calling is based out of Goldfield, so in this particular case, it isn't malicious. I'm not going to deny that there could be other malicious uses of that exchange.
Adding to the confusion, Goldfield Telecom sells and installs telco equipment. Their local phone company is an apparently unrelated entity called Goldfield Telephone, with a web site at www.goldfieldaccess.net with an expired SSL certificate. It's a tiny single switch RLEC. If they have a conference bridge, that screams traffic pumping.
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