SIP provider that will route to free conference services
We have a few customers who need to reach free conference call services and none of our current carriers will route the calls. Are there any providers out there that will take these calls via SIP? We are happy to pay a fair price per minute if somebody will take it. -Evan
On 12/02/2015 03:49 PM, Evan P. Hall wrote:
We have a few customers who need to reach free conference call services and none of our current carriers will route the calls. Are there any providers out there that will take these calls via SIP? We are happy to pay a fair price per minute if somebody will take it.
You could take, or threaten to take, the route of reporting your upstream termination carriers for noncompliance with the FCC's order on the subject. :-) https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-releases-order-combating-rural-call-complet... -- Alex -- Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC 303 Perimeter Center North, Suite 300 Atlanta, GA 30346 United States Tel: +1-800-250-5920 (toll-free) / +1-678-954-0671 (direct) Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.csrpswitch.com/
And then, please do record that phone call! If you give me a sample number to test, I'll try it on our carriers. But on the other hand, why not just provide the conferencing service on your own service? That's what we do; we've simply told our customers not to use them and give them conferencing ability as part of our services. On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com> wrote:
On 12/02/2015 03:49 PM, Evan P. Hall wrote:
We have a few customers who need to reach free conference call
services and none of our current carriers will route the calls. Are there any providers out there that will take these calls via SIP? We are happy to pay a fair price per minute if somebody will take it.
You could take, or threaten to take, the route of reporting your upstream termination carriers for noncompliance with the FCC's order on the subject. :-)
https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-releases-order-combating-rural-call-complet...
-- Alex
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We do offer conferencing, but these customers are needing to join large conferences arranged by business partners or vendors and they are not able to influence the service used. Here is one of the phone numbers: 712-775-7031. I have a carrier that rejects it outright and 2 that it just rings and rings and never answers. If I call from my cell phone, it immediately answers and prompts for conference information. -Evan From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Alvarez Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 12:56 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SIP provider that will route to free conference services And then, please do record that phone call! If you give me a sample number to test, I'll try it on our carriers. But on the other hand, why not just provide the conferencing service on your own service? That's what we do; we've simply told our customers not to use them and give them conferencing ability as part of our services. On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com<mailto:abalashov at evaristesys.com>> wrote: On 12/02/2015 03:49 PM, Evan P. Hall wrote: We have a few customers who need to reach free conference call services and none of our current carriers will route the calls. Are there any providers out there that will take these calls via SIP? We are happy to pay a fair price per minute if somebody will take it. You could take, or threaten to take, the route of reporting your upstream termination carriers for noncompliance with the FCC's order on the subject. :-) https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-releases-order-combating-rural-call-complet... -- Alex -- Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC 303 Perimeter Center North, Suite 300 Atlanta, GA 30346 United States Tel: +1-800-250-5920<tel:%2B1-800-250-5920> (toll-free) / +1-678-954-0671<tel:%2B1-678-954-0671> (direct) Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.csrpswitch.com/ _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org<mailto:VoiceOps at voiceops.org> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
"it just rings and rings and never answers" Can you tell if the ringback is pre-session media or post-answer? That seems like FAS, or the conference bridge might be doing something pre-session, like prompting for a bridge ID, and someone is masking that pre-session media with a ringback. Regards, *Calvin Ellison* Voice Services Engineer calvin.ellison at voxox.com +1 (213) 285-0555 ----------------------------------------------- *voxox.com <http://www.voxox.com/> * 9276 Scranton Rd, Suite 200 San Diego, CA 92121 [image: Voxox] On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Evan P. Hall <evan at corpwest.com> wrote:
We do offer conferencing, but these customers are needing to join large conferences arranged by business partners or vendors and they are not able to influence the service used.
Here is one of the phone numbers: 712-775-7031. I have a carrier that rejects it outright and 2 that it just rings and rings and never answers. If I call from my cell phone, it immediately answers and prompts for conference information.
-Evan
*From:* VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] *On Behalf Of *Carlos Alvarez *Sent:* Wednesday, December 2, 2015 12:56 PM *To:* voiceops at voiceops.org *Subject:* Re: [VoiceOps] SIP provider that will route to free conference services
And then, please do record that phone call!
If you give me a sample number to test, I'll try it on our carriers. But on the other hand, why not just provide the conferencing service on your own service? That's what we do; we've simply told our customers not to use them and give them conferencing ability as part of our services.
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com> wrote:
On 12/02/2015 03:49 PM, Evan P. Hall wrote:
We have a few customers who need to reach free conference call services and none of our current carriers will route the calls. Are there any providers out there that will take these calls via SIP? We are happy to pay a fair price per minute if somebody will take it.
You could take, or threaten to take, the route of reporting your upstream termination carriers for noncompliance with the FCC's order on the subject. :-)
https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-releases-order-combating-rural-call-complet...
-- Alex
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On 12/02/2015 04:37 PM, Calvin Ellison wrote:
the conference bridge might be doing something pre-session, like prompting for a bridge ID
I doubt that the representatives of rural Iowa folk conference calling traditions have an incentive to pipe out any portion of their audio via early media, since they don't get paid CABS for early media. -- Alex -- Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC 303 Perimeter Center North, Suite 300 Atlanta, GA 30346 United States Tel: +1-800-250-5920 (toll-free) / +1-678-954-0671 (direct) Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.csrpswitch.com/
The call completes just fine via Onvoy. On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Evan P. Hall <evan at corpwest.com> wrote:
We do offer conferencing, but these customers are needing to join large conferences arranged by business partners or vendors and they are not able to influence the service used.
Here is one of the phone numbers: 712-775-7031. I have a carrier that rejects it outright and 2 that it just rings and rings and never answers. If I call from my cell phone, it immediately answers and prompts for conference information.
-Evan
*From:* VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] *On Behalf Of *Carlos Alvarez *Sent:* Wednesday, December 2, 2015 12:56 PM *To:* voiceops at voiceops.org *Subject:* Re: [VoiceOps] SIP provider that will route to free conference services
And then, please do record that phone call!
If you give me a sample number to test, I'll try it on our carriers. But on the other hand, why not just provide the conferencing service on your own service? That's what we do; we've simply told our customers not to use them and give them conferencing ability as part of our services.
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com> wrote:
On 12/02/2015 03:49 PM, Evan P. Hall wrote:
We have a few customers who need to reach free conference call services and none of our current carriers will route the calls. Are there any providers out there that will take these calls via SIP? We are happy to pay a fair price per minute if somebody will take it.
You could take, or threaten to take, the route of reporting your upstream termination carriers for noncompliance with the FCC's order on the subject. :-)
https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-releases-order-combating-rural-call-complet...
-- Alex
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Get in touch with Widevoice. A couple years ago we were having trouble getting quality calls to certain conference destinations. They handle most of the traffic to these destinations and a handful of NPANXXs. They gave us a specific rate deck for many of these conference codes. On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Carlos Alvarez <caalvarez at gmail.com> wrote:
The call completes just fine via Onvoy.
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Evan P. Hall <evan at corpwest.com> wrote:
We do offer conferencing, but these customers are needing to join large conferences arranged by business partners or vendors and they are not able to influence the service used.
Here is one of the phone numbers: 712-775-7031. I have a carrier that rejects it outright and 2 that it just rings and rings and never answers. If I call from my cell phone, it immediately answers and prompts for conference information.
-Evan
*From:* VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] *On Behalf Of *Carlos Alvarez *Sent:* Wednesday, December 2, 2015 12:56 PM *To:* voiceops at voiceops.org *Subject:* Re: [VoiceOps] SIP provider that will route to free conference services
And then, please do record that phone call!
If you give me a sample number to test, I'll try it on our carriers. But on the other hand, why not just provide the conferencing service on your own service? That's what we do; we've simply told our customers not to use them and give them conferencing ability as part of our services.
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com> wrote:
On 12/02/2015 03:49 PM, Evan P. Hall wrote:
We have a few customers who need to reach free conference call services and none of our current carriers will route the calls. Are there any providers out there that will take these calls via SIP? We are happy to pay a fair price per minute if somebody will take it.
You could take, or threaten to take, the route of reporting your upstream termination carriers for noncompliance with the FCC's order on the subject. :-)
https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-releases-order-combating-rural-call-complet...
-- Alex
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That number seems to work for me from Flowroute. But it *does* take an awful long time to connect, like they are trying to go down through a list of carriers in their LCR table and keep getting rejected, until it finally manages to go through on a carrier that is a fair ways down the list... -- Nathan Anderson First Step Internet, LLC nathana at fsr.com<mailto:nathana at fsr.com> From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Evan P. Hall Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 1:31 PM To: Carlos Alvarez Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SIP provider that will route to free conference services We do offer conferencing, but these customers are needing to join large conferences arranged by business partners or vendors and they are not able to influence the service used. Here is one of the phone numbers: 712-775-7031. I have a carrier that rejects it outright and 2 that it just rings and rings and never answers. If I call from my cell phone, it immediately answers and prompts for conference information. -Evan From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Alvarez Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 12:56 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org<mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SIP provider that will route to free conference services And then, please do record that phone call! If you give me a sample number to test, I'll try it on our carriers. But on the other hand, why not just provide the conferencing service on your own service? That's what we do; we've simply told our customers not to use them and give them conferencing ability as part of our services. On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com<mailto:abalashov at evaristesys.com>> wrote: On 12/02/2015 03:49 PM, Evan P. Hall wrote: We have a few customers who need to reach free conference call services and none of our current carriers will route the calls. Are there any providers out there that will take these calls via SIP? We are happy to pay a fair price per minute if somebody will take it. You could take, or threaten to take, the route of reporting your upstream termination carriers for noncompliance with the FCC's order on the subject. :-) https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-releases-order-combating-rural-call-complet... -- Alex -- Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC 303 Perimeter Center North, Suite 300 Atlanta, GA 30346 United States Tel: +1-800-250-5920<tel:%2B1-800-250-5920> (toll-free) / +1-678-954-0671<tel:%2B1-678-954-0671> (direct) Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.csrpswitch.com/ _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org<mailto:VoiceOps at voiceops.org> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
I made three calls with PDD maybe 2-3 seconds on Onvoy. Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 2, 2015, at 7:21 PM, Nathan Anderson <nathana at fsr.com> wrote:
That number seems to work for me from Flowroute. But it *does* take an awful long time to connect, like they are trying to go down through a list of carriers in their LCR table and keep getting rejected, until it finally manages to go through on a carrier that is a fair ways down the list...
-- Nathan Anderson First Step Internet, LLC nathana at fsr.com
From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Evan P. Hall Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 1:31 PM To: Carlos Alvarez Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SIP provider that will route to free conference services
We do offer conferencing, but these customers are needing to join large conferences arranged by business partners or vendors and they are not able to influence the service used.
Here is one of the phone numbers: 712-775-7031. I have a carrier that rejects it outright and 2 that it just rings and rings and never answers. If I call from my cell phone, it immediately answers and prompts for conference information.
-Evan
From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Alvarez Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 12:56 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SIP provider that will route to free conference services
And then, please do record that phone call!
If you give me a sample number to test, I'll try it on our carriers. But on the other hand, why not just provide the conferencing service on your own service? That's what we do; we've simply told our customers not to use them and give them conferencing ability as part of our services.
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com> wrote: On 12/02/2015 03:49 PM, Evan P. Hall wrote:
We have a few customers who need to reach free conference call services and none of our current carriers will route the calls. Are there any providers out there that will take these calls via SIP? We are happy to pay a fair price per minute if somebody will take it.
You could take, or threaten to take, the route of reporting your upstream termination carriers for noncompliance with the FCC's order on the subject. :-)
https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-releases-order-combating-rural-call-complet...
-- Alex
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6 seconds here. Though I could swear when I tried it earlier it was even longer than that. -- Nathan From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Alvarez Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 7:07 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SIP provider that will route to free conference services I made three calls with PDD maybe 2-3 seconds on Onvoy. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2015, at 7:21 PM, Nathan Anderson <nathana at fsr.com<mailto:nathana at fsr.com>> wrote: That number seems to work for me from Flowroute. But it *does* take an awful long time to connect, like they are trying to go down through a list of carriers in their LCR table and keep getting rejected, until it finally manages to go through on a carrier that is a fair ways down the list... -- Nathan Anderson First Step Internet, LLC nathana at fsr.com<mailto:nathana at fsr.com> From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Evan P. Hall Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 1:31 PM To: Carlos Alvarez Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org<mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SIP provider that will route to free conference services We do offer conferencing, but these customers are needing to join large conferences arranged by business partners or vendors and they are not able to influence the service used. Here is one of the phone numbers: 712-775-7031. I have a carrier that rejects it outright and 2 that it just rings and rings and never answers. If I call from my cell phone, it immediately answers and prompts for conference information. -Evan From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Alvarez Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 12:56 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org<mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SIP provider that will route to free conference services And then, please do record that phone call! If you give me a sample number to test, I'll try it on our carriers. But on the other hand, why not just provide the conferencing service on your own service? That's what we do; we've simply told our customers not to use them and give them conferencing ability as part of our services. On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com<mailto:abalashov at evaristesys.com>> wrote: On 12/02/2015 03:49 PM, Evan P. Hall wrote: We have a few customers who need to reach free conference call services and none of our current carriers will route the calls. Are there any providers out there that will take these calls via SIP? We are happy to pay a fair price per minute if somebody will take it. You could take, or threaten to take, the route of reporting your upstream termination carriers for noncompliance with the FCC's order on the subject. :-) https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-releases-order-combating-rural-call-complet... -- Alex -- Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC 303 Perimeter Center North, Suite 300 Atlanta, GA 30346 United States Tel: +1-800-250-5920<tel:%2B1-800-250-5920> (toll-free) / +1-678-954-0671<tel:%2B1-678-954-0671> (direct) Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.csrpswitch.com/ _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org<mailto:VoiceOps at voiceops.org> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
?I would guess the PDD is upstream LCR hunting through a large amount of vendors who fail to take the call before finding one that will take it. ? -- Alex?Balashov?|?Principal?|?Evariste?Systems?LLC 303?Perimeter?Center?North,?Suite?300 Atlanta,?GA?30346 United?States Tel:?+1-800-250-5920?(toll-free)?/?+1-678-954-0671 (direct) Web:?http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.csrpswitch.com/ Sent?from?my?BlackBerry. ? Original Message ? From: Nathan Anderson Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 22:12 To: 'Carlos Alvarez'; voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SIP provider that will route to free conference services 6 seconds here.? Though I could swear when I tried it earlier it was even longer than that. ? -- Nathan ? From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Alvarez Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 7:07 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SIP provider that will route to free conference services ? I made three calls with PDD maybe 2-3 seconds on Onvoy. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2015, at 7:21 PM, Nathan Anderson <nathana at fsr.com> wrote: That number seems to work for me from Flowroute.? But it *does* take an awful long time to connect, like they are trying to go down through a list of carriers in their LCR table and keep getting rejected, until it finally manages to go through on a carrier that is a fair ways down the list... ? -- Nathan Anderson First Step Internet, LLC nathana at fsr.com ? From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Evan P. Hall Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 1:31 PM To: Carlos Alvarez Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SIP provider that will route to free conference services ? We do offer conferencing, but these customers are needing to join large conferences arranged by business partners or vendors and they are not able to influence the service used. ? Here is one of the phone numbers: 712-775-7031.? I have a carrier that rejects it outright and 2 that it just rings and rings and never answers.? If I call from my cell phone, it immediately answers and prompts for conference information. ? -Evan ? From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Alvarez Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 12:56 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SIP provider that will route to free conference services ? And then, please do record that phone call! ? If you give me a sample number to test, I'll try it on our carriers.? But on the other hand, why not just provide the conferencing service on your own service?? That's what we do; we've simply told our customers not to use them and give them conferencing ability as part of our services. ? ? On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com> wrote: On 12/02/2015 03:49 PM, Evan P. Hall wrote: We have a few customers who need to reach free conference call services and none of our current carriers will route the calls.? Are there any providers out there that will take these calls via SIP?? We are happy to pay a fair price per minute if somebody will take it. You could take, or threaten to take, the route of reporting your upstream termination carriers for noncompliance with the FCC's order on the subject. :-) https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-releases-order-combating-rural-call-complet... -- Alex -- Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC 303 Perimeter Center North, Suite 300 Atlanta, GA 30346 United States Tel: +1-800-250-5920 (toll-free) / +1-678-954-0671 (direct) Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.csrpswitch.com/ _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops ?
that's because 712-775 <712-775-7031> is an expensive rate. On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com> wrote:
?I would guess the PDD is upstream LCR hunting through a large amount of vendors who fail to take the call before finding one that will take it. ? -- Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC 303 Perimeter Center North, Suite 300 Atlanta, GA 30346 United States
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Sent from my BlackBerry. Original Message From: Nathan Anderson Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 22:12 To: 'Carlos Alvarez'; voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SIP provider that will route to free conference services
6 seconds here. Though I could swear when I tried it earlier it was even longer than that.
-- Nathan
From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Alvarez Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 7:07 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SIP provider that will route to free conference services
I made three calls with PDD maybe 2-3 seconds on Onvoy.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 2, 2015, at 7:21 PM, Nathan Anderson <nathana at fsr.com> wrote:
That number seems to work for me from Flowroute. But it *does* take an awful long time to connect, like they are trying to go down through a list of carriers in their LCR table and keep getting rejected, until it finally manages to go through on a carrier that is a fair ways down the list...
-- Nathan Anderson First Step Internet, LLC nathana at fsr.com
From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Evan P. Hall Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 1:31 PM To: Carlos Alvarez Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SIP provider that will route to free conference services
We do offer conferencing, but these customers are needing to join large conferences arranged by business partners or vendors and they are not able to influence the service used.
Here is one of the phone numbers: 712-775-7031. I have a carrier that rejects it outright and 2 that it just rings and rings and never answers. If I call from my cell phone, it immediately answers and prompts for conference information.
-Evan
From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Alvarez Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 12:56 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SIP provider that will route to free conference services
And then, please do record that phone call!
If you give me a sample number to test, I'll try it on our carriers. But on the other hand, why not just provide the conferencing service on your own service? That's what we do; we've simply told our customers not to use them and give them conferencing ability as part of our services.
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com> wrote: On 12/02/2015 03:49 PM, Evan P. Hall wrote:
We have a few customers who need to reach free conference call services and none of our current carriers will route the calls. Are there any providers out there that will take these calls via SIP? We are happy to pay a fair price per minute if somebody will take it.
You could take, or threaten to take, the route of reporting your upstream termination carriers for noncompliance with the FCC's order on the subject. :-)
https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-releases-order-combating-rural-call-complet...
-- Alex
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Then they should charge a rate relative to the costs of terminating it and route it without discrimination. Hence the point of the FCC's order.
On Dec 2, 2015, at 20:21, Colin Brown <zavoid at gmail.com> wrote:
that's because 712-775 <tel:712-775-7031> is an expensive rate.
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com <mailto:abalashov at evaristesys.com>> wrote: ?I would guess the PDD is upstream LCR hunting through a large amount of vendors who fail to take the call before finding one that will take it.
[lots of trimming here - PT ]
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Right. 'swhat I said. :) -- Nathan -----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Alex Balashov Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 7:14 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SIP provider that will route to free conference services ?I would guess the PDD is upstream LCR hunting through a large amount of vendors who fail to take the call before finding one that will take it. ? -- Alex?Balashov?|?Principal?|?Evariste?Systems?LLC 303?Perimeter?Center?North,?Suite?300 Atlanta,?GA?30346 United?States Tel:?+1-800-250-5920?(toll-free)?/?+1-678-954-0671 (direct) Web:?http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.csrpswitch.com/ Sent?from?my?BlackBerry. ? Original Message ? From: Nathan Anderson Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 22:12 To: 'Carlos Alvarez'; voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SIP provider that will route to free conference services 6 seconds here.? Though I could swear when I tried it earlier it was even longer than that. ? -- Nathan ? From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Alvarez Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 7:07 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SIP provider that will route to free conference services ? I made three calls with PDD maybe 2-3 seconds on Onvoy. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2015, at 7:21 PM, Nathan Anderson <nathana at fsr.com> wrote: That number seems to work for me from Flowroute.? But it *does* take an awful long time to connect, like they are trying to go down through a list of carriers in their LCR table and keep getting rejected, until it finally manages to go through on a carrier that is a fair ways down the list... ? -- Nathan Anderson First Step Internet, LLC nathana at fsr.com ? From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Evan P. Hall Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 1:31 PM To: Carlos Alvarez Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SIP provider that will route to free conference services ? We do offer conferencing, but these customers are needing to join large conferences arranged by business partners or vendors and they are not able to influence the service used. ? Here is one of the phone numbers: 712-775-7031.? I have a carrier that rejects it outright and 2 that it just rings and rings and never answers.? If I call from my cell phone, it immediately answers and prompts for conference information. ? -Evan ? From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Alvarez Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 12:56 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SIP provider that will route to free conference services ? And then, please do record that phone call! ? If you give me a sample number to test, I'll try it on our carriers.? But on the other hand, why not just provide the conferencing service on your own service?? That's what we do; we've simply told our customers not to use them and give them conferencing ability as part of our services. ? ? On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com> wrote: On 12/02/2015 03:49 PM, Evan P. Hall wrote: We have a few customers who need to reach free conference call services and none of our current carriers will route the calls.? Are there any providers out there that will take these calls via SIP?? We are happy to pay a fair price per minute if somebody will take it. You could take, or threaten to take, the route of reporting your upstream termination carriers for noncompliance with the FCC's order on the subject. :-) https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-releases-order-combating-rural-call-complet... -- Alex -- Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC 303 Perimeter Center North, Suite 300 Atlanta, GA 30346 United States Tel: +1-800-250-5920 (toll-free) / +1-678-954-0671 (direct) Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.csrpswitch.com/ _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops ? _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
On 3 December 2015 00:57:51 GMT-05:00, Nathan Anderson <nathana at fsr.com> wrote:
Right. 'swhat I said. :)
Yes, indeed you did! Sorry about that. I am a nincompoop who didn't read preceding messages. -- Alex?Balashov?|?Principal?|?Evariste?Systems?LLC 303?Perimeter?Center?North,?Suite?300 Atlanta,?GA?30346 United?States Tel:?+1-800-250-5920?(toll-free)?/?+1-678-954-0671 (direct) Web:?http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.csrpswitch.com/ Sent?from?my?Nexus 10.
In article <D68D2C39A2B8BB45B4E6029C9E4FEB2002D248758C at MB01.hmc.corpwest.com> you write:
We have a few customers who need to reach free conference call services and none of our current carriers will route the calls. Are there any providers out there that will take these calls via SIP? We are happy to pay a fair price per minute if somebody will take it.
Works over Callcentric. R's, John
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abalashov＠evaristesys.com -
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evan＠corpwest.com -
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zavoid＠gmail.com