
Does anyone know of a service that I can send a full +1 number to and get a response as to if its an assigned number or not? I know I can test against the LERG, but I was hoping to test if its an active number or not. I figure this can be done with SS7, but that would be costly for me to setup and do. Anyone have any tips? ~Jared

I would import list of assigned pooled blocks from Neustar/National Pooling (nationalpooling.org) into a database, then import a list of assigned NANPA 10,000 blocks from them (nanpa.com), and roll your own. That's all anyone else would be selling you anyway, more or less. -- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC 1170 Peachtree Street 12th Floor, Suite 1200 Atlanta, GA 30309 Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Fax: +1-404-961-1892 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/ On Aug 5, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Jared Geiger <jared at compuwizz.net> wrote:
Does anyone know of a service that I can send a full +1 number to and get a response as to if its an assigned number or not? I know I can test against the LERG, but I was hoping to test if its an active number or not.
I figure this can be done with SS7, but that would be costly for me to setup and do.
Anyone have any tips?
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Alex, This is great info I was looking for ,but I could not find a page where you can download all info in single page, you need to download for each State/Area Code combination. May be someone needs to write perl script :) to import everything in database . Plus , I was also looking for NPAC data , where I can find ported numbers out of the blocks. Anyone know of any good source? Is there anything I can barter for this data? Any tips? Thanks, Naush. ________________________________ From: Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com> To: Jared Geiger <jared at compuwizz.net> Cc: "voiceops at voiceops.org" <voiceops at voiceops.org> Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 11:26:10 AM Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Valid number testing I would import list of assigned pooled blocks from Neustar/National Pooling (nationalpooling.org) into a database, then import a list of assigned NANPA 10,000 blocks from them (nanpa.com), and roll your own. That's all anyone else would be selling you anyway, more or less. -- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC 1170 Peachtree Street 12th Floor, Suite 1200 Atlanta, GA 30309 Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Fax: +1-404-961-1892 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/ On Aug 5, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Jared Geiger <jared at compuwizz.net> wrote:
Does anyone know of a service that I can send a full +1 number to and get a response as to if its an assigned number or not? I know I can test against the LERG, but I was hoping to test if its an active number or not.
I figure this can be done with SS7, but that would be costly for me to setup and do.
Anyone have any tips?
~Jared _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
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There is a complete list of all pooled blocks aggregated, but it takes some effort to find. It's there, though; I'll find the link for you when I get back to a PC. NPAC access is a complex subject. Sufficed to say, this information can only be obtained on a service basis; you can't just download a list of numbers with a non-native LRN. :-) -- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC 1170 Peachtree Street 12th Floor, Suite 1200 Atlanta, GA 30309 Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Fax: +1-404-961-1892 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/ On Aug 5, 2010, at 11:57 AM, Naushit Sakarvadia <naushit at yahoo.com> wrote:
Alex,
This is great info I was looking for ,but I could not find a page where you can download all info in single page, you need to download for each State/Area Code combination. May be someone needs to write perl script :) to import everything in database .
Plus , I was also looking for NPAC data , where I can find ported numbers out of the blocks. Anyone know of any good source?
Is there anything I can barter for this data? Any tips?
Thanks, Naush.
From: Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com> To: Jared Geiger <jared at compuwizz.net> Cc: "voiceops at voiceops.org" <voiceops at voiceops.org> Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 11:26:10 AM Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Valid number testing
I would import list of assigned pooled blocks from Neustar/National Pooling (nationalpooling.org) into a database, then import a list of assigned NANPA 10,000 blocks from them (nanpa.com), and roll your own. That's all anyone else would be selling you anyway, more or less.
-- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC 1170 Peachtree Street 12th Floor, Suite 1200 Atlanta, GA 30309 Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Fax: +1-404-961-1892 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/
On Aug 5, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Jared Geiger <jared at compuwizz.net> wrote:
Does anyone know of a service that I can send a full +1 number to and get a response as to if its an assigned number or not? I know I can test against the LERG, but I was hoping to test if its an active number or not.
I figure this can be done with SS7, but that would be costly for me to setup and do.
Anyone have any tips?
~Jared _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
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On 08/05/2010 11:57 AM, Naushit Sakarvadia wrote:
This is great info I was looking for ,but I could not find a page where you can download all info in single page, you need to download for each State/Area Code combination. May be someone needs to write perl script :) to import everything in database .
That site is deliberately designed to be rather difficult to traverse by script. Anyway, have a look at the "All Regions" option: http://www.nationalpooling.org/reports/block-by-region/index.htm -- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC 1170 Peachtree Street 12th Floor, Suite 1200 Atlanta, GA 30309 Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Fax: +1-404-961-1892 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/

You can use Local Calling Guide's XML Query interface to get at some of this data. It is generally fairly up to date but by no means real time. http://localcallingguide.com/xmlquery.php Neustar also provides their PortPS interface to customers for real time pool and LNP data, but I have not looked into API interfaces to that. -Scott -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Alex Balashov Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 1:31 PM To: Naushit Sakarvadia Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Valid number testing On 08/05/2010 11:57 AM, Naushit Sakarvadia wrote:
This is great info I was looking for ,but I could not find a page where you can download all info in single page, you need to download for each State/Area Code combination. May be someone needs to write perl script :) to import everything in database .
That site is deliberately designed to be rather difficult to traverse by script. Anyway, have a look at the "All Regions" option: http://www.nationalpooling.org/reports/block-by-region/index.htm -- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC 1170 Peachtree Street 12th Floor, Suite 1200 Atlanta, GA 30309 Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Fax: +1-404-961-1892 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/ _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops

On 08/05/2010 02:58 PM, Scott Berkman wrote:
You can use Local Calling Guide's XML Query interface to get at some of this data. It is generally fairly up to date but by no means real time.
Yeah, that works, though definitely talk to the LCG guy beforehand if you want to party in high-volume ways. I've also found that interface quite sluggish performance-wise at times.
Neustar also provides their PortPS interface to customers for real time pool and LNP data, but I have not looked into API interfaces to that.
Neustar does have an LNP-over-SIP product, but it's quite expensive and restrictive in the usual way. The best bet for real-time queries is to go to an STP operator like VeriSign who resells this information[1], or someone like Broadvox, who presumably resells that or something fraternal. [1] By some commercial and legal means I fail to understand, for, as someone pointed out earlier, in theory disclosure of NPAC data requires that whoever you're disclosing it to to also have NPAC NDAs on file for the NPAC territories, and generally they try to keep this info within the carrier space. -- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC 1170 Peachtree Street 12th Floor, Suite 1200 Atlanta, GA 30309 Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Fax: +1-404-961-1892 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/

On 08/05/2010 03:07 PM, Alex Balashov wrote:
Neustar does have an LNP-over-SIP product, but it's quite expensive and restrictive in the usual way. The best bet for real-time queries is to go to an STP operator like VeriSign who resells this information[1], or someone like Broadvox, who presumably resells that or something fraternal.
[1] By some commercial and legal means I fail to understand, for, as someone pointed out earlier, in theory disclosure of NPAC data requires that whoever you're disclosing it to to also have NPAC NDAs on file for the NPAC territories, and generally they try to keep this info within the carrier space.
This is because the carrier data is considered CPNI and can't be used for marketing and other things. IIRC
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