True enough; the signal to noise ratio can get pretty low in big lists. However, if we're doomed to die as ancient, bloated Rome did, at least we can sack a few interesting countries along the way :) David Hiers CCIE (R/S, V), CISSP ADP Dealer Services 2525 SW 1st Ave. Suite 300W Portland, OR 97201 o: 503-205-4467 f: 503-402-3277 -----Original Message----- From: Brad Anouar [mailto:Brad at broadcore.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 11:19 AM To: Hiers, David; voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: RE: critical mass Hi David, My concern is that once it gets too big, the numbers of emails will become unmanageable. Brad -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Hiers, David Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 7:41 AM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: [VoiceOps] critical mass Hi All, The more people sign up for this list, the more valuable it will be for all of us. If you get a chance, you may want to mention the list to your colleagues. With our growth rate (288 members in 5 days) its clear that you guys are getting the word out, thanks for that :) Thanks, David Hiers CCIE (R/S, V), CISSP ADP Dealer Services 2525 SW 1st Ave. Suite 300W Portland, OR 97201 o: 503-205-4467 f: 503-402-3277 This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system.

I'd love to see this list self-managed based on concepts like respect and professionalism, but if that turns out not to be possible we can adopt a similar charter/usage policy to NANOG. In the mean time be nice :) -Scott -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Peter Beckman Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 2:47 PM To: Hiers, David Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] critical mass On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Hiers, David wrote:

True enough; the signal to noise ratio can get pretty low in big lists.

However, if we're doomed to die as ancient, bloated Rome did, at least we can sack a few interesting countries along the way :)

NANOG has been able to do a sufficient job of moderation with a huge number of people on the list. I'm sure the same can be done, clearly written rules and swift hands at the controls are all that is required. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Beckman Internet Guy beckman at angryox.com http://www.angryox.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops