Broadworks on VMWare/Linux
Is anyone running production Broadworks on virtual (VMWare/Red Hat Linux) servers? Have you had any issues related to it being a virtual machine? I know it is now supported and we have tested in a lab environment without issue but have not yet clobbered it with any serious volumes of traffic and are curious if Broadworks behaves any differently on physical versus virtual servers. Any experience you can share is welcome. Thanks
We run Broadworks in a mix of native and virtual machines. AS,NS, MS, XSP,DB are native RHEL running on IBM Blades PS,SurgeMail run virtual on RHEL xen instances. I have not run into any issues with running virtual on the secondary servers. I'm not sure I would want to run AS, NS & MS on virtual. I don't think you can run the DB virtual -Matt -- Matthew S. Crocker President Crocker Communications, Inc. PO BOX 710 Greenfield, MA 01302-0710 E: matthew at crocker.com P: (413) 746-2760 F: (413) 746-3704 W: http://www.crocker.com On Jan 31, 2013, at 11:06 AM, PE <peeip989 at gmail.com> wrote:
Is anyone running production Broadworks on virtual (VMWare/Red Hat Linux) servers? Have you had any issues related to it being a virtual machine? I know it is now supported and we have tested in a lab environment without issue but have not yet clobbered it with any serious volumes of traffic and are curious if Broadworks behaves any differently on physical versus virtual servers.
Any experience you can share is welcome.
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I'd be most hesitant with the MS and CS due to the timing issues. AS/NS I think would do well short of HUGE deployments. I know in the past BS only supported VMs for the lab. -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Crocker Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:14 AM To: PE Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Broadworks on VMWare/Linux We run Broadworks in a mix of native and virtual machines. AS,NS, MS, XSP,DB are native RHEL running on IBM Blades PS,SurgeMail run virtual on RHEL xen instances. I have not run into any issues with running virtual on the secondary servers. I'm not sure I would want to run AS, NS & MS on virtual. I don't think you can run the DB virtual -Matt -- Matthew S. Crocker President Crocker Communications, Inc. PO BOX 710 Greenfield, MA 01302-0710 E: matthew at crocker.com P: (413) 746-2760 F: (413) 746-3704 W: http://www.crocker.com On Jan 31, 2013, at 11:06 AM, PE <peeip989 at gmail.com> wrote:
Is anyone running production Broadworks on virtual (VMWare/Red Hat Linux) servers? Have you had any issues related to it being a virtual machine? I know it is now supported and we have tested in a lab environment without issue but have not yet clobbered it with any serious volumes of traffic and are curious if Broadworks behaves any differently on physical versus virtual servers.
Any experience you can share is welcome.
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All of the BroadWorks nodes (with one caveat, noted below) run just fine in a virtualized environment, including the DBS. In fact, BroadSoft SE's will often run small BroadWorks systems on Windows laptops with 8 GB of RAM using VMWare player. Not super scalable, but it certainly works. For Service Provider customers with real lab or production systems, I'd make two points about virtualizing BroadWorks: 1) The Media Servers are very sensitive to the hardware's clock timing, so while they will run, some customers have reported audio quality issues when the MS is virtualized. For now, I personally would recommend running the MSs on real hardware to avoid any potential issues. 2) BroadSoft has validated BroadWorks performance in virtualized setups for relatively small user loads (think in the range of 15-30K users). This isn't to say that large user count systems can't be virtualized, they can be, but BSFT hasn't yet run those scenarios in the labs, so your mileage may vary. BSFT will definitely be doing more work in the near term around this to validate much larger traffic loads. This is an important initiative for us, so expect to be seeing more about that in 2013. -D Dag Peak Director CSE - NA dpeak at broadsoft.com -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Crocker [mailto:matthew at corp.crocker.com] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:14 AM To: PE Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Broadworks on VMWare/Linux We run Broadworks in a mix of native and virtual machines. AS,NS, MS, XSP,DB are native RHEL running on IBM Blades PS,SurgeMail run virtual on RHEL xen instances. I have not run into any issues with running virtual on the secondary servers. I'm not sure I would want to run AS, NS & MS on virtual. I don't think you can run the DB virtual -Matt -- Matthew S. Crocker President Crocker Communications, Inc. PO BOX 710 Greenfield, MA 01302-0710 E: matthew at crocker.com P: (413) 746-2760 F: (413) 746-3704 W: http://www.crocker.com On Jan 31, 2013, at 11:06 AM, PE <peeip989 at gmail.com> wrote:
Is anyone running production Broadworks on virtual (VMWare/Red Hat Linux) servers? Have you had any issues related to it being a virtual machine? I know it is now supported and we have tested in a lab environment without issue but have not yet clobbered it with any serious volumes of traffic and are curious if Broadworks behaves any differently on physical versus virtual servers.
Any experience you can share is welcome.
Thanks _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
I believe there is a BW virtualization guide on xchange too. Ujjval K On Jan 31, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Dag Peak <dpeak at broadsoft.com> wrote:
All of the BroadWorks nodes (with one caveat, noted below) run just fine in a virtualized environment, including the DBS. In fact, BroadSoft SE's will often run small BroadWorks systems on Windows laptops with 8 GB of RAM using VMWare player. Not super scalable, but it certainly works.
For Service Provider customers with real lab or production systems, I'd make two points about virtualizing BroadWorks:
1) The Media Servers are very sensitive to the hardware's clock timing, so while they will run, some customers have reported audio quality issues when the MS is virtualized. For now, I personally would recommend running the MSs on real hardware to avoid any potential issues.
2) BroadSoft has validated BroadWorks performance in virtualized setups for relatively small user loads (think in the range of 15-30K users). This isn't to say that large user count systems can't be virtualized, they can be, but BSFT hasn't yet run those scenarios in the labs, so your mileage may vary. BSFT will definitely be doing more work in the near term around this to validate much larger traffic loads. This is an important initiative for us, so expect to be seeing more about that in 2013.
-D
Dag Peak Director CSE - NA dpeak at broadsoft.com
-----Original Message----- From: Matthew Crocker [mailto:matthew at corp.crocker.com] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:14 AM To: PE Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Broadworks on VMWare/Linux
We run Broadworks in a mix of native and virtual machines.
AS,NS, MS, XSP,DB are native RHEL running on IBM Blades PS,SurgeMail run virtual on RHEL xen instances.
I have not run into any issues with running virtual on the secondary servers. I'm not sure I would want to run AS, NS & MS on virtual. I don't think you can run the DB virtual
-Matt
-- Matthew S. Crocker President Crocker Communications, Inc. PO BOX 710 Greenfield, MA 01302-0710
E: matthew at crocker.com P: (413) 746-2760 F: (413) 746-3704 W: http://www.crocker.com
On Jan 31, 2013, at 11:06 AM, PE <peeip989 at gmail.com> wrote:
Is anyone running production Broadworks on virtual (VMWare/Red Hat Linux) servers? Have you had any issues related to it being a virtual machine? I know it is now supported and we have tested in a lab environment without issue but have not yet clobbered it with any serious volumes of traffic and are curious if Broadworks behaves any differently on physical versus virtual servers.
Any experience you can share is welcome.
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