:-) Take Kidd's call from Verizon in Colorado. If there isn't our exchange in their local switch, do they forward the call on to another switch in hopes that it will know where to send it? Similar to a default gateway in IP world? Adam -----Original Message----- From: Blake Dunlap [mailto:ikiris at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:39 AM To: Adam Vocks Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777 Welcome to the wonderful world of CLEC =) -Blake On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Adam Vocks <Adam.Vocks at cticomputers.com> wrote:
Thanks Kidd,
Here's a question for the group.
Verizon cell here locally works find, am I going to have to test every
single Verizon cell tower in the country??? Geesh, there's got to be a better way to get these codes out to people.
Adam
From: Kidd Filby [mailto:kidd.filby at corp.forethought.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:28 AM To: Adam Vocks Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777
Verizon cell in Colorado says the number's been disconnected. Envoy, I get fast busy. AT&T cell in Colorado is good.
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From: "Adam Vocks" <Adam.Vocks at cticomputers.com> To: voiceops at voiceops.org Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 4:09:44 PM
Subject: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777
Hi everyone,
I stumbled on this list recently and have been reading through the archives. Thanks for all the information you've all shared.
We're a CLEC in Illinois and are in the middle of building a FTTH network in our home town. In December our exchange 217-777 was effective. We're using ANPI's Tandem service for our Feature Group D traffic and using our ILEC (Consolidated Communications) as our intralata/local tandem.
No troubles on the Intralata/local terminating traffic, however, we're
having more and more reports of different people out in the world that
can't call our customers.
It started with AT&T Cellular, that's been resolved, then we heard from Sprint PCS, that's been resolved. Next was Comcast Business, that's been resolved.
Latest example is a caller from Texas who is on Time Warner Cable:
LRN: 12543004000
OCN: 583C
LATA: 556
CITY: WACO
STATE: TX
LEC: TIME WARNER CBLE INFO SVC (TX) DBA TIME WARNER CBL
When they call us they just get dead air.
I guess my questions are: How long after the effective date in the BIRRDS database do all of the switches get updated? Is this a typical
problem with a new exchange/LRN?
A follow up question: is there a service out there that will originate
calls from many different telcos and if they fail, open up a ticket with that carrier? I'm running into roadblocks calling these carriers
since I am not a customer.
I've got a test number set up on 217-777-0001, "Thank you for Calling.
You have reached a test number. Your telephone number is... " if there's anyone out there who wants to give it a test and report back, fine by me. It seems the more information I have the better.
Thanks for listening,
Adam Vocks
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On 07/15/2014 10:44 AM, Adam Vocks wrote:
:-)
Take Kidd's call from Verizon in Colorado. If there isn't our exchange in their local switch, do they forward the call on to another switch in hopes that it will know where to send it? Similar to a default gateway in IP world?
It would get kicked up to an ILEC tandem inside that LATA. There is really no default gateway beyond that; at that point, you've already exited into what the IP world would call "default route-free" or "Tier 1" routing space. -- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.alexbalashov.com/ Please be kind to the English language: http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/232906
So, at the very least, I need to start looking at each of the ILEC's tandems in a specific LATA? Adam -----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Alex Balashov Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:48 AM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777 On 07/15/2014 10:44 AM, Adam Vocks wrote:
:-)
Take Kidd's call from Verizon in Colorado. If there isn't our exchange in their local switch, do they forward the call on to another
switch in hopes that it will know where to send it? Similar to a default gateway in IP world?
It would get kicked up to an ILEC tandem inside that LATA. There is really no default gateway beyond that; at that point, you've already exited into what the IP world would call "default route-free" or "Tier 1" routing space. -- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.alexbalashov.com/ Please be kind to the English language: http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/232906 _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
On 07/15/2014 10:52 AM, Adam Vocks wrote:
So, at the very least, I need to start looking at each of the ILEC's tandems in a specific LATA?
The broad answer is yes, but specific answers will vary with the LECs' interconnection arrangements, which could entail some private interconnects. -- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.alexbalashov.com/ Please be kind to the English language: http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/232906
OK, I'll keep opening trouble tickets when something is reported... Sigh... -----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Alex Balashov Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:56 AM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777 On 07/15/2014 10:52 AM, Adam Vocks wrote:
So, at the very least, I need to start looking at each of the ILEC's tandems in a specific LATA?
The broad answer is yes, but specific answers will vary with the LECs' interconnection arrangements, which could entail some private interconnects. -- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.alexbalashov.com/ Please be kind to the English language: http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/232906 _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
On 07/15/2014 10:59 AM, Adam Vocks wrote:
OK, I'll keep opening trouble tickets when something is reported...
That's probably the best thing to do. -- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.alexbalashov.com/ Please be kind to the English language: http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/232906
What's worse really is not that you have to look at ILEC tandems out of area - they don't perform any route filtering, if the originating caller is calling out of area, it gets sent to their PIC/LPIC LD carrier. So what you really need is every IXC in the country to make sure they have a route to you either directly, through whatever tandem homing arrangements you have, or via another IXC (really common especially in rural areas to see a Level 3/Global Crossing hand off to Qwest/AT&T/Verizon for the final termination.). -Paul On 07/15/2014 10:52 AM, Adam Vocks wrote:
So, at the very least, I need to start looking at each of the ILEC's tandems in a specific LATA?
Adam
-----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Alex Balashov Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:48 AM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777
On 07/15/2014 10:44 AM, Adam Vocks wrote:
:-)
Take Kidd's call from Verizon in Colorado. If there isn't our exchange in their local switch, do they forward the call on to another switch in hopes that it will know where to send it? Similar to a default gateway in IP world? It would get kicked up to an ILEC tandem inside that LATA. There is really no default gateway beyond that; at that point, you've already exited into what the IP world would call "default route-free" or "Tier 1" routing space.
-- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.alexbalashov.com/
Please be kind to the English language:
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I'm really hoping Level3 is having a routing issue with our code. Some tried a call on level3 to us which failed. Odd things is that Level3 is directly connected to the Tandem we subtend. I wouldn't think Level3 would send it off their network??? Adam -----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Paul Timmins Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:30 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777 What's worse really is not that you have to look at ILEC tandems out of area - they don't perform any route filtering, if the originating caller is calling out of area, it gets sent to their PIC/LPIC LD carrier. So what you really need is every IXC in the country to make sure they have a route to you either directly, through whatever tandem homing arrangements you have, or via another IXC (really common especially in rural areas to see a Level 3/Global Crossing hand off to Qwest/AT&T/Verizon for the final termination.). -Paul On 07/15/2014 10:52 AM, Adam Vocks wrote:
So, at the very least, I need to start looking at each of the ILEC's tandems in a specific LATA?
Adam
-----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Alex Balashov Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:48 AM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777
On 07/15/2014 10:44 AM, Adam Vocks wrote:
:-)
Take Kidd's call from Verizon in Colorado. If there isn't our exchange in their local switch, do they forward the call on to another switch in hopes that it will know where to send it? Similar to a default gateway in IP world? It would get kicked up to an ILEC tandem inside that LATA. There is really no default gateway beyond that; at that point, you've already exited into what the IP world would call "default route-free" or "Tier
1" routing space.
-- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.alexbalashov.com/
Please be kind to the English language:
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I have a trouble ticket open with Hypercube. Their rate is super low for this NPA/NXX and is the route has long PDD then fails. So I'm wondering if once this route is fixed, if most everyone else's routes will get fixed. I guess Level3 fixing it will help as well. On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Adam Vocks <Adam.Vocks at cticomputers.com> wrote:
I'm really hoping Level3 is having a routing issue with our code. Some tried a call on level3 to us which failed. Odd things is that Level3 is directly connected to the Tandem we subtend. I wouldn't think Level3 would send it off their network???
Adam
-----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Paul Timmins Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:30 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777
What's worse really is not that you have to look at ILEC tandems out of area - they don't perform any route filtering, if the originating caller is calling out of area, it gets sent to their PIC/LPIC LD carrier.
So what you really need is every IXC in the country to make sure they have a route to you either directly, through whatever tandem homing arrangements you have, or via another IXC (really common especially in rural areas to see a Level 3/Global Crossing hand off to Qwest/AT&T/Verizon for the final termination.).
-Paul
On 07/15/2014 10:52 AM, Adam Vocks wrote:
So, at the very least, I need to start looking at each of the ILEC's tandems in a specific LATA?
Adam
-----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Alex Balashov Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:48 AM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777
On 07/15/2014 10:44 AM, Adam Vocks wrote:
:-)
Take Kidd's call from Verizon in Colorado. If there isn't our exchange in their local switch, do they forward the call on to another switch in hopes that it will know where to send it? Similar to a default gateway in IP world? It would get kicked up to an ILEC tandem inside that LATA. There is really no default gateway beyond that; at that point, you've already exited into what the IP world would call "default route-free" or "Tier
1" routing space.
-- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.alexbalashov.com/
Please be kind to the English language:
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Jared, wondering if Hypercube ever got back with you? I?ve here a couple people tell me now that Hypercube has the lowest rate for 217/777 so I?m wondering if most LCR engines choose that carrier. Adam From: compuwizz at gmail.com [mailto:compuwizz at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Jared Geiger Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 1:20 PM To: Adam Vocks Cc: VoiceOps Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777 I have a trouble ticket open with Hypercube. Their rate is super low for this NPA/NXX and is the route has long PDD then fails. So I'm wondering if once this route is fixed, if most everyone else's routes will get fixed. I guess Level3 fixing it will help as well. On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Adam Vocks <Adam.Vocks at cticomputers.com> wrote: I'm really hoping Level3 is having a routing issue with our code. Some tried a call on level3 to us which failed. Odd things is that Level3 is directly connected to the Tandem we subtend. I wouldn't think Level3 would send it off their network??? Adam -----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Paul Timmins Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:30 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777 What's worse really is not that you have to look at ILEC tandems out of area - they don't perform any route filtering, if the originating caller is calling out of area, it gets sent to their PIC/LPIC LD carrier. So what you really need is every IXC in the country to make sure they have a route to you either directly, through whatever tandem homing arrangements you have, or via another IXC (really common especially in rural areas to see a Level 3/Global Crossing hand off to Qwest/AT&T/Verizon for the final termination.). -Paul On 07/15/2014 10:52 AM, Adam Vocks wrote:
So, at the very least, I need to start looking at each of the ILEC's tandems in a specific LATA?
Adam
-----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Alex Balashov Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:48 AM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777
On 07/15/2014 10:44 AM, Adam Vocks wrote:
:-)
Take Kidd's call from Verizon in Colorado. If there isn't our exchange in their local switch, do they forward the call on to another switch in hopes that it will know where to send it? Similar to a default gateway in IP world? It would get kicked up to an ILEC tandem inside that LATA. There is really no default gateway beyond that; at that point, you've already exited into what the IP world would call "default route-free" or "Tier
1" routing space.
-- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC Tel: +1-678-954-0670 <tel:%2B1-678-954-0670> Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.alexbalashov.com/
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Also, does anyone have a connection with Paetec, that they can try a test call to 217-777-0001? I?ve got a customer with a toll free number with Petec that won?t complete and they won?t help me. Arrggg. Thanks, Adam From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Adam Vocks Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 8:18 AM To: Jared Geiger Cc: VoiceOps Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777 Jared, wondering if Hypercube ever got back with you? I?ve here a couple people tell me now that Hypercube has the lowest rate for 217/777 so I?m wondering if most LCR engines choose that carrier. Adam From: compuwizz at gmail.com [mailto:compuwizz at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Jared Geiger Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 1:20 PM To: Adam Vocks Cc: VoiceOps Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777 I have a trouble ticket open with Hypercube. Their rate is super low for this NPA/NXX and is the route has long PDD then fails. So I'm wondering if once this route is fixed, if most everyone else's routes will get fixed. I guess Level3 fixing it will help as well. On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Adam Vocks <Adam.Vocks at cticomputers.com> wrote: I'm really hoping Level3 is having a routing issue with our code. Some tried a call on level3 to us which failed. Odd things is that Level3 is directly connected to the Tandem we subtend. I wouldn't think Level3 would send it off their network??? Adam -----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Paul Timmins Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:30 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777 What's worse really is not that you have to look at ILEC tandems out of area - they don't perform any route filtering, if the originating caller is calling out of area, it gets sent to their PIC/LPIC LD carrier. So what you really need is every IXC in the country to make sure they have a route to you either directly, through whatever tandem homing arrangements you have, or via another IXC (really common especially in rural areas to see a Level 3/Global Crossing hand off to Qwest/AT&T/Verizon for the final termination.). -Paul On 07/15/2014 10:52 AM, Adam Vocks wrote:
So, at the very least, I need to start looking at each of the ILEC's tandems in a specific LATA?
Adam
-----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Alex Balashov Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:48 AM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777
On 07/15/2014 10:44 AM, Adam Vocks wrote:
:-)
Take Kidd's call from Verizon in Colorado. If there isn't our exchange in their local switch, do they forward the call on to another switch in hopes that it will know where to send it? Similar to a default gateway in IP world? It would get kicked up to an ILEC tandem inside that LATA. There is really no default gateway beyond that; at that point, you've already exited into what the IP world would call "default route-free" or "Tier
1" routing space.
-- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC Tel: +1-678-954-0670 <tel:%2B1-678-954-0670> Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.alexbalashov.com/
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Yes Hypercube has an extremely low rate. They say they have fixed it but their route to the exchange seems to be always full and congested. I haven't been able to get a call to go through still with them. I at least get an immediate 503 though now from them. The rate they have is less than $0.002 so that's probably why they are getting first route from everyone. I guess the only thing to do is to have others open a ticket to get more pressure on them to actually fix it. On Thursday, July 17, 2014, Adam Vocks <Adam.Vocks at cticomputers.com> wrote:
Jared, wondering if Hypercube ever got back with you? I?ve here a couple people tell me now that Hypercube has the lowest rate for 217/777 so I?m wondering if most LCR engines choose that carrier.
Adam
*From:* compuwizz at gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','compuwizz at gmail.com');> [mailto: compuwizz at gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','compuwizz at gmail.com');>] *On Behalf Of *Jared Geiger *Sent:* Tuesday, July 15, 2014 1:20 PM *To:* Adam Vocks *Cc:* VoiceOps *Subject:* Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777
I have a trouble ticket open with Hypercube. Their rate is super low for this NPA/NXX and is the route has long PDD then fails. So I'm wondering if once this route is fixed, if most everyone else's routes will get fixed.
I guess Level3 fixing it will help as well.
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Adam Vocks <Adam.Vocks at cticomputers.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Adam.Vocks at cticomputers.com');>> wrote:
I'm really hoping Level3 is having a routing issue with our code. Some tried a call on level3 to us which failed. Odd things is that Level3 is directly connected to the Tandem we subtend. I wouldn't think Level3 would send it off their network???
Adam
-----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org');>] On Behalf Of Paul Timmins Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:30 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','voiceops at voiceops.org');> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777
What's worse really is not that you have to look at ILEC tandems out of area - they don't perform any route filtering, if the originating caller is calling out of area, it gets sent to their PIC/LPIC LD carrier.
So what you really need is every IXC in the country to make sure they have a route to you either directly, through whatever tandem homing arrangements you have, or via another IXC (really common especially in rural areas to see a Level 3/Global Crossing hand off to Qwest/AT&T/Verizon for the final termination.).
-Paul
On 07/15/2014 10:52 AM, Adam Vocks wrote:
So, at the very least, I need to start looking at each of the ILEC's tandems in a specific LATA?
Adam
-----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org');>] On Behalf Of Alex Balashov Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:48 AM To: voiceops at voiceops.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','voiceops at voiceops.org');> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777
On 07/15/2014 10:44 AM, Adam Vocks wrote:
:-)
Take Kidd's call from Verizon in Colorado. If there isn't our exchange in their local switch, do they forward the call on to another switch in hopes that it will know where to send it? Similar to a default gateway in IP world? It would get kicked up to an ILEC tandem inside that LATA. There is really no default gateway beyond that; at that point, you've already exited into what the IP world would call "default route-free" or "Tier
1" routing space.
-- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.alexbalashov.com/
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Level 3 is a big wholesale route for a lot of smaller IXC carriers and VoIP providers, so when they fix it, you'll probably see immense improvement. On 07/15/2014 02:10 PM, Adam Vocks wrote:
I'm really hoping Level3 is having a routing issue with our code. Some tried a call on level3 to us which failed. Odd things is that Level3 is directly connected to the Tandem we subtend. I wouldn't think Level3 would send it off their network???
Adam
-----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Paul Timmins Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:30 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777
What's worse really is not that you have to look at ILEC tandems out of area - they don't perform any route filtering, if the originating caller is calling out of area, it gets sent to their PIC/LPIC LD carrier.
So what you really need is every IXC in the country to make sure they have a route to you either directly, through whatever tandem homing arrangements you have, or via another IXC (really common especially in rural areas to see a Level 3/Global Crossing hand off to Qwest/AT&T/Verizon for the final termination.).
-Paul
On 07/15/2014 10:52 AM, Adam Vocks wrote:
So, at the very least, I need to start looking at each of the ILEC's tandems in a specific LATA?
Adam
-----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Alex Balashov Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:48 AM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777
On 07/15/2014 10:44 AM, Adam Vocks wrote:
:-)
Take Kidd's call from Verizon in Colorado. If there isn't our exchange in their local switch, do they forward the call on to another switch in hopes that it will know where to send it? Similar to a default gateway in IP world? It would get kicked up to an ILEC tandem inside that LATA. There is really no default gateway beyond that; at that point, you've already exited into what the IP world would call "default route-free" or "Tier 1" routing space.
-- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.alexbalashov.com/
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Tested ok over Level3 and Verizon SIP today - Marius -----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Paul Timmins Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 4:02 PM To: Adam Vocks; voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777 Level 3 is a big wholesale route for a lot of smaller IXC carriers and VoIP providers, so when they fix it, you'll probably see immense improvement. On 07/15/2014 02:10 PM, Adam Vocks wrote:
I'm really hoping Level3 is having a routing issue with our code. Some tried a call on level3 to us which failed. Odd things is that Level3 is directly connected to the Tandem we subtend. I wouldn't think Level3 would send it off their network???
Adam
-----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Paul Timmins Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:30 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777
What's worse really is not that you have to look at ILEC tandems out of area - they don't perform any route filtering, if the originating caller is calling out of area, it gets sent to their PIC/LPIC LD carrier.
So what you really need is every IXC in the country to make sure they have a route to you either directly, through whatever tandem homing arrangements you have, or via another IXC (really common especially in rural areas to see a Level 3/Global Crossing hand off to Qwest/AT&T/Verizon for the final termination.).
-Paul
On 07/15/2014 10:52 AM, Adam Vocks wrote:
So, at the very least, I need to start looking at each of the ILEC's tandems in a specific LATA?
Adam
-----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Alex Balashov Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:48 AM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777
On 07/15/2014 10:44 AM, Adam Vocks wrote:
:-)
Take Kidd's call from Verizon in Colorado. If there isn't our exchange in their local switch, do they forward the call on to another switch in hopes that it will know where to send it? Similar to a default gateway in IP world? It would get kicked up to an ILEC tandem inside that LATA. There is really no default gateway beyond that; at that point, you've already exited into what the IP world would call "default route-free" or "Tier 1" routing space.
-- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.alexbalashov.com/
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Level 3 is a big wholesale route for a lot of smaller IXC carriers and VoIP providers, so when they fix it, you'll probably see immense improvement. On 07/15/2014 02:10 PM, Adam Vocks wrote:
I'm really hoping Level3 is having a routing issue with our code. Some tried a call on level3 to us which failed. Odd things is that Level3 is directly connected to the Tandem we subtend. I wouldn't think Level3 would send it off their network???
Adam
-----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Paul Timmins Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:30 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777
What's worse really is not that you have to look at ILEC tandems out of area - they don't perform any route filtering, if the originating caller is calling out of area, it gets sent to their PIC/LPIC LD carrier.
So what you really need is every IXC in the country to make sure they have a route to you either directly, through whatever tandem homing arrangements you have, or via another IXC (really common especially in rural areas to see a Level 3/Global Crossing hand off to Qwest/AT&T/Verizon for the final termination.).
-Paul
On 07/15/2014 10:52 AM, Adam Vocks wrote:
So, at the very least, I need to start looking at each of the ILEC's tandems in a specific LATA?
Adam
-----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Alex Balashov Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:48 AM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777
On 07/15/2014 10:44 AM, Adam Vocks wrote:
:-)
Take Kidd's call from Verizon in Colorado. If there isn't our exchange in their local switch, do they forward the call on to another switch in hopes that it will know where to send it? Similar to a default gateway in IP world? It would get kicked up to an ILEC tandem inside that LATA. There is really no default gateway beyond that; at that point, you've already exited into what the IP world would call "default route-free" or "Tier 1" routing space.
-- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.alexbalashov.com/
Please be kind to the English language:
http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/232906 _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
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Level 3 is a big wholesale route for a lot of smaller IXC carriers and VoIP providers, so when they fix it, you'll probably see immense improvement. On 07/15/2014 02:10 PM, Adam Vocks wrote:
I'm really hoping Level3 is having a routing issue with our code. Some tried a call on level3 to us which failed. Odd things is that Level3 is directly connected to the Tandem we subtend. I wouldn't think Level3 would send it off their network???
Adam
-----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Paul Timmins Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:30 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777
What's worse really is not that you have to look at ILEC tandems out of area - they don't perform any route filtering, if the originating caller is calling out of area, it gets sent to their PIC/LPIC LD carrier.
So what you really need is every IXC in the country to make sure they have a route to you either directly, through whatever tandem homing arrangements you have, or via another IXC (really common especially in rural areas to see a Level 3/Global Crossing hand off to Qwest/AT&T/Verizon for the final termination.).
-Paul
On 07/15/2014 10:52 AM, Adam Vocks wrote:
So, at the very least, I need to start looking at each of the ILEC's tandems in a specific LATA?
Adam
-----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Alex Balashov Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:48 AM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] New Exchange 217/777
On 07/15/2014 10:44 AM, Adam Vocks wrote:
:-)
Take Kidd's call from Verizon in Colorado. If there isn't our exchange in their local switch, do they forward the call on to another switch in hopes that it will know where to send it? Similar to a default gateway in IP world? It would get kicked up to an ILEC tandem inside that LATA. There is really no default gateway beyond that; at that point, you've already exited into what the IP world would call "default route-free" or "Tier 1" routing space.
-- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.alexbalashov.com/
Please be kind to the English language:
http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/232906 _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
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paul＠timmins.net