
Has the industry come up with a better way of dealing with the drudgery of calling every carrier in an area and cajoling, begging, and pleading with them to get their new prefix loaded in everyone's switches other than the traditional "buy a pile of paygo phones and open tickets with each carrier" method? (half frustrated, half serious. If I had spare time these days, it seems this sort of contact information would be a perfect fit for my database, but alas, I can barely keep up with eating 3 meals a day these days, let alone work on more neat stuff like this) -Paul PS: If you can't call 708-666-7999 (and more humorously, 708-666-7565) please fix your stuff. If you have any unreachable codes, I'll happily check my systems to return the favor.

Paul, Both worked for me from my Broadsoft switch (bandwidth.com LD). Both worked from my iPhone (AT&T). I have an ear ache after dialing the first one. I'd like to have my special dialing wand, I mashed my keypad but your system just hung up on me ;) ----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Timmins" <paul at timmins.net> To: "VoiceOps" <voiceops at voiceops.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 2:06:39 AM Subject: [VoiceOps] Code opening miseries
Has the industry come up with a better way of dealing with the drudgery of calling every carrier in an area and cajoling, begging, and pleading with them to get their new prefix loaded in everyone's switches other than the traditional "buy a pile of paygo phones and open tickets with each carrier" method?
(half frustrated, half serious. If I had spare time these days, it seems this sort of contact information would be a perfect fit for my database, but alas, I can barely keep up with eating 3 meals a day these days, let alone work on more neat stuff like this)
-Paul
PS: If you can't call 708-666-7999 (and more humorously, 708-666-7565) please fix your stuff. If you have any unreachable codes, I'll happily check my systems to return the favor. _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops

I don't know of any new industry requirements but it definitely is a problem. I know you can put in a suggestion with the NANC group that creates all the guidelines, but don't expect anything to happen soon on that if you do because they discuss everything to death before they do anything. It would at least be nice if you could get ahold of the right department so you could put a trouble ticket in easily because when you make it to the right department, they know what they need to do and can fix it right away. My experience has been that you waste a lot of time locating the right department because they don't publish their internal numbers so you have to start with their customer care number and work in from there. If anyone is interested in consolidating resources, I would be happy to volunteer my website as a resource to store it on. If you are interested and have information you would like to share, please forward me the Carrier's name and phone number so I can put together a contact list and get it posted on my website. Mary Lou Carey BackUP Telecom Consulting 615-791-9969 -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Matthew S. Crocker Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:38 AM To: Paul Timmins Cc: VoiceOps Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Code opening miseries Paul, Both worked for me from my Broadsoft switch (bandwidth.com LD). Both worked from my iPhone (AT&T). I have an ear ache after dialing the first one. I'd like to have my special dialing wand, I mashed my keypad but your system just hung up on me ;) ----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Timmins" <paul at timmins.net> To: "VoiceOps" <voiceops at voiceops.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 2:06:39 AM Subject: [VoiceOps] Code opening miseries
Has the industry come up with a better way of dealing with the drudgery of calling every carrier in an area and cajoling, begging, and pleading with them to get their new prefix loaded in everyone's switches other than the traditional "buy a pile of paygo phones and open tickets with each carrier" method?
(half frustrated, half serious. If I had spare time these days, it seems this sort of contact information would be a perfect fit for my database, but alas, I can barely keep up with eating 3 meals a day these days, let alone work on more neat stuff like this)
-Paul
PS: If you can't call 708-666-7999 (and more humorously, 708-666-7565) please fix your stuff. If you have any unreachable codes, I'll happily check my systems to return the favor. _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
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ATIS does a have list of contacts for LERG updates. http://www.atis.org/niif/cscdlnp.asp It only contains those companies that have voluntarily supplied their info, but it's a start. Frank -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou Carey Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 9:53 AM To: 'Matthew S. Crocker'; 'Paul Timmins' Cc: 'VoiceOps' Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Code opening miseries I don't know of any new industry requirements but it definitely is a problem. I know you can put in a suggestion with the NANC group that creates all the guidelines, but don't expect anything to happen soon on that if you do because they discuss everything to death before they do anything. It would at least be nice if you could get ahold of the right department so you could put a trouble ticket in easily because when you make it to the right department, they know what they need to do and can fix it right away. My experience has been that you waste a lot of time locating the right department because they don't publish their internal numbers so you have to start with their customer care number and work in from there. If anyone is interested in consolidating resources, I would be happy to volunteer my website as a resource to store it on. If you are interested and have information you would like to share, please forward me the Carrier's name and phone number so I can put together a contact list and get it posted on my website. Mary Lou Carey BackUP Telecom Consulting 615-791-9969 -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Matthew S. Crocker Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:38 AM To: Paul Timmins Cc: VoiceOps Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Code opening miseries Paul, Both worked for me from my Broadsoft switch (bandwidth.com LD). Both worked from my iPhone (AT&T). I have an ear ache after dialing the first one. I'd like to have my special dialing wand, I mashed my keypad but your system just hung up on me ;) ----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Timmins" <paul at timmins.net> To: "VoiceOps" <voiceops at voiceops.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 2:06:39 AM Subject: [VoiceOps] Code opening miseries
Has the industry come up with a better way of dealing with the drudgery of calling every carrier in an area and cajoling, begging, and pleading with them to get their new prefix loaded in everyone's switches other than the traditional "buy a pile of paygo phones and open tickets with each carrier" method?
(half frustrated, half serious. If I had spare time these days, it seems this sort of contact information would be a perfect fit for my database, but alas, I can barely keep up with eating 3 meals a day these days, let alone work on more neat stuff like this)
-Paul
PS: If you can't call 708-666-7999 (and more humorously, 708-666-7565) please fix your stuff. If you have any unreachable codes, I'll happily check my systems to return the favor. _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
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I had a long PDD and no ring-back on the first number For the second number I had a long PDD and no ring-back followed by a call announcement code. On my second attempt I got through, but also no ring-back. Should I be getting a ring-back? In regards to your question, yes, you have to self-test and beg and plead. We've padded our CLEC launches by about a month to work through all those issues. There's no telco equivalent for checking new block announcements (i.e. http://www.ris.ripe.net/debogon/) Frank -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Paul Timmins Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 1:07 AM To: VoiceOps Subject: [VoiceOps] Code opening miseries Has the industry come up with a better way of dealing with the drudgery of calling every carrier in an area and cajoling, begging, and pleading with them to get their new prefix loaded in everyone's switches other than the traditional "buy a pile of paygo phones and open tickets with each carrier" method? (half frustrated, half serious. If I had spare time these days, it seems this sort of contact information would be a perfect fit for my database, but alas, I can barely keep up with eating 3 meals a day these days, let alone work on more neat stuff like this) -Paul PS: If you can't call 708-666-7999 (and more humorously, 708-666-7565) please fix your stuff. If you have any unreachable codes, I'll happily check my systems to return the favor. _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
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