Hi All, We?re currently shopping around for a new provider(s) for our inbound local DID?s (US). We?re currently working with XO and possibly bringing on Paetec. We?re also going to start looking into Level3, although we hear they require a hefty monthly minimum which we may not meet at this time. Does anyone have any experience bringing on Level3 either for their true Local Inbound product or their VoIP Enhanced Local product? We need to provide local DID?s for our residential customers and was also hoping to find a cost effective manner to provide local DID?s as access numbers into our calling card/international long distance platform. We realize this may result in utilizing two different products or providers. Any suggestions from the list? Thanks, Keith
Keith, 360networks... provides service across the western US in over 1300 RC's (We are CLEC in 39 states and own a large fiber network). We provide inbound call sessions for a monthly MRC and DID's from .05-.20 based on number of DID's Reserved/Activated. We can take this off-line when you have some time and I'll get you squared away with one of our sales engineers. Best, Rick Rick Garcia VoIP Strategist 360networks (USA) Inc. 206-239-4059 - O 206-999-6666 - C 206-299-9383 - F From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Keith Leclaire Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 9:47 AM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: [VoiceOps] Local Inbound Services Hi All, We're currently shopping around for a new provider(s) for our inbound local DID's (US). We're currently working with XO and possibly bringing on Paetec. We're also going to start looking into Level3, although we hear they require a hefty monthly minimum which we may not meet at this time. Does anyone have any experience bringing on Level3 either for their true Local Inbound product or their VoIP Enhanced Local product? We need to provide local DID's for our residential customers and was also hoping to find a cost effective manner to provide local DID's as access numbers into our calling card/international long distance platform. We realize this may result in utilizing two different products or providers. Any suggestions from the list? Thanks, Keith
What state? On Aug 10, 2009, at 9:46 AM, Keith Leclaire wrote:
Hi All,
We?re currently shopping around for a new provider(s) for our inbound local DID?s (US). We?re currently working with XO and possibly bringing on Paetec. We?re also going to start looking into Level3, although we hear they require a hefty monthly minimum which we may not meet at this time. Does anyone have any experience bringing on Level3 either for their true Local Inbound product or their VoIP Enhanced Local product?
We need to provide local DID?s for our residential customers and was also hoping to find a cost effective manner to provide local DID?s as access numbers into our calling card/international long distance platform. We realize this may result in utilizing two different products or providers.
Any suggestions from the list?
Thanks, Keith
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Broadvox is very nice. On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Keith Leclaire <kleclaire at mywdt.com>wrote:
Hi All,
We?re currently shopping around for a new provider(s) for our inbound local DID?s (US). We?re currently working with XO and possibly bringing on Paetec. We?re also going to start looking into Level3, although we hear they require a hefty monthly minimum which we may not meet at this time. Does anyone have any experience bringing on Level3 either for their true Local Inbound product or their VoIP Enhanced Local product?
We need to provide local DID?s for our residential customers and was also hoping to find a cost effective manner to provide local DID?s as access numbers into our calling card/international long distance platform. We realize this may result in utilizing two different products or providers.
Any suggestions from the list?
Thanks, Keith
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On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Keith Leclaire wrote:
Hi All,
We?re currently shopping around for a new provider(s) for our inbound local DID?s (US). We?re currently working with XO and possibly bringing on Paetec. We?re also going to start looking into Level3, although we hear they require a hefty monthly minimum which we may not meet at this time. Does anyone have any experience bringing on Level3 either for their true Local Inbound product or their VoIP Enhanced Local product?
We need to provide local DID?s for our residential customers and was also hoping to find a cost effective manner to provide local DID?s as access numbers into our calling card/international long distance platform. We realize this may result in utilizing two different products or providers.
We use Global Crossing, O1 in CA, and TSG. -Nathan
We use O1 in CA, Verizon Biz for where Verizon is the local LEC, and VoIP Innovations for everywhere else... -Jarrod Lash On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Nathan Stratton <nathan at robotics.net>wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Keith Leclaire wrote:
Hi All,
We?re currently shopping around for a new provider(s) for our inbound local DID?s (US). We?re currently working with XO and possibly bringing on Paetec. We?re also going to start looking into Level3, although we hear they require a hefty monthly minimum which we may not meet at this time. Does anyone have any experience bringing on Level3 either for their true Local Inbound product or their VoIP Enhanced Local product?
We need to provide local DID?s for our residential customers and was also hoping to find a cost effective manner to provide local DID?s as access numbers into our calling card/international long distance platform. We realize this may result in utilizing two different products or providers.
We use Global Crossing, O1 in CA, and TSG.
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We have made heavy use of the L3 ELS product, across both their vector and viper networks and have been very pleased in both scenarios. There is a fairly hefty minimum though so if you cant meet it and you Have also dealt with Paetec, O1, Broadvox and 360 Networks, and off that list 360 has a solid service offering, including T.38 if you need it (L3's Vector network also offers this), but their footprint is limited and their management tools aren't the best. Paetec and O1 are both solid citizens but really nothing that makes them stand above the others. Broadvox has great pricing and coverage but their consistency and quality often suffer, and their management tools are atrocious. On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 12:46 -0400, Keith Leclaire wrote:
Hi All,
We?re currently shopping around for a new provider(s) for our inbound local DID?s (US). We?re currently working with XO and possibly bringing on Paetec. We?re also going to start looking into Level3, although we hear they require a hefty monthly minimum which we may not meet at this time. Does anyone have any experience bringing on Level3 either for their true Local Inbound product or their VoIP Enhanced Local product?
We need to provide local DID?s for our residential customers and was also hoping to find a cost effective manner to provide local DID?s as access numbers into our calling card/international long distance platform. We realize this may result in utilizing two different products or providers.
Any suggestions from the list?
Thanks, Keith
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Not sure about the biz stuff, but L3 does pretty well for us (ELS and LI). Be sure you're on vector, not viper, if there is even a choice any more. Verizon has good voice quality, but can't handle business signaling very well. Be sure that you test your most complex signaling path, especially one that hammers a call with a rush of signals. David Hiers CCIE (R/S, V), CISSP ADP Dealer Services 2525 SW 1st Ave. Suite 300W Portland, OR 97201 o: 503-205-4467 f: 503-402-3277 From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Keith Leclaire Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 9:47 AM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: [VoiceOps] Local Inbound Services Hi All, We're currently shopping around for a new provider(s) for our inbound local DID's (US). We're currently working with XO and possibly bringing on Paetec. We're also going to start looking into Level3, although we hear they require a hefty monthly minimum which we may not meet at this time. Does anyone have any experience bringing on Level3 either for their true Local Inbound product or their VoIP Enhanced Local product? We need to provide local DID's for our residential customers and was also hoping to find a cost effective manner to provide local DID's as access numbers into our calling card/international long distance platform. We realize this may result in utilizing two different products or providers. Any suggestions from the list? Thanks, Keith This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system.
Just to add to what David mentioned, in addition to complex call flows we also spend a great deal of time planning and testing our origination redundancy. We like to focus on what type of equipment each carrier has so we feel comfortable with how redundant they are, because unlike our termination traffic, we have no control over the calls coming in... It also helps to know their equipment so we know how easy interop will be. The carriers I have experience with for origination -- XO - No origination redundancy. You have to call them and they will swing you to the redundant trunk. No road map for adding in automagic redundancy. :( 360N - Redundancy GLBX - Redundancy Level(3) Vector - Highly Redundant The big guys with a stable platform usually have Sonus gear and some have ACME SBCs. All of the above have Sonus equipment. As far as account management, 360 is probably at the top and L3 second. XO, Global and L3 are just large though and sometimes it shows. The other thing we like to make sure of is the carrier is doing some level of call capturing for "go back in time" troubleshooting. Nothing more frustrating to a customer than something happening and no one has any clue why. Global and Level3 can do this very easily... It is on the 360N road map. -katia On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Hiers, David <David_Hiers at adp.com> wrote:
Not sure about the biz stuff, but L3 does pretty well for us (ELS and LI). Be sure you?re on vector, not viper, if there is even a choice any more.
Verizon has good voice quality, but can?t handle business signaling very well.
Be sure that you test your most complex signaling path, especially one that hammers a call with a rush of signals.
David Hiers
CCIE (R/S, V), CISSP ADP Dealer Services 2525 SW 1st Ave. Suite 300W Portland, OR 97201 o: 503-205-4467 f: 503-402-3277
*From:* voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] *On Behalf Of *Keith Leclaire *Sent:* Monday, August 10, 2009 9:47 AM *To:* voiceops at voiceops.org *Subject:* [VoiceOps] Local Inbound Services
Hi All,
We?re currently shopping around for a new provider(s) for our inbound local DID?s (US). We?re currently working with XO and possibly bringing on Paetec. We?re also going to start looking into Level3, although we hear they require a hefty monthly minimum which we may not meet at this time. Does anyone have any experience bringing on Level3 either for their true Local Inbound product or their VoIP Enhanced Local product?
We need to provide local DID?s for our residential customers and was also hoping to find a cost effective manner to provide local DID?s as access numbers into our calling card/international long distance platform. We realize this may result in utilizing two different products or providers.
Any suggestions from the list?
Thanks, Keith
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