This is a reasonable response to the January 27 question from Jay Hennigan. Jay specifically asked for recommended providers. Jack Santeramo recommends Commwave. If somebody had replied, pretending not to be Commwave, and offered Commwave as an example answer to Jay's question, then I doubt we'd have this discussion. I'd rather just have a vendor explain the services they offer. All the vendors are up for public ridicule^Wtroubleshooting anyway. It's best when they represent themselves. On Feb 2, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Lee Riemer wrote:

Where's the moderator?

On 2/2/2010 4:21 PM, Jack Santeramo wrote:

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Comwave Telecom is Canada?s leading provider of wholesale VoIP services. We specialize in the provisioning of SIP trunking and DID origination to the carrier and reseller markets throughout Canada, the United States and Overseas.

Comwave prides itself in delivering an enhanced support infrastructure via dedicated teams for technical support, DID provisioning and LNP fulfillment, in addition to E911 solutions, full fax support, billing and our Carrier Self Service Portal.

Comwave is a full service provider also offering international and domestic long distance termination, toll free and an extensive white label VoIP offering.

For any questions please contact Jack Santeramo at 416.953.3050 or visit www.comwave.net

Regards, Jack Santeramo Comwave Telecom T 416.663.9700 X344 C 416.953.3050 F 416.736.3170

On Jan 27, 2010, at 8:42 PM, Jay Hennigan wrote:

We're a VoIP provider in California with carrier arrangements for DIDs throughout much of the US.

We have a few customers with offices in Canada and are beginning to get inquiries from others with cross-border US/Canadian presence.

Has anyone gone down this path that can give some pointers? Obviously we can put IADs with FXO (or even PRI) ports on-premise at each customer location tied to the local telco but this doesn't scale all that well.

I'm looking for legal/regulatory info about such things as taxes, 9-1-1, getting listed in the local white pages, etc. as well as any technical obstacles and recommended providers. Technically it appears to be pretty straightforward. It's all part of the same NANP.

-- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - jay at impulse.net Impulse Internet Service - http://www.impulse.net/ Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops

I agree this would have been a preferred path, but I don't see this as off-topic since the request for this information was made quite recently. We don't moderate this list by default, any member can post. We can block as needed in the future, but our hopes have always been to not need to do that. Thanks, -Scott From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Lee Riemer Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:19 PM To: Mark R Lindsey Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] FW: For Your Consideration Replying to the original request's thread would have avoided this as well. To those with short memories and active inboxes, this had the looks of an unsolicited email. On 2/2/2010 4:56 PM, Mark R Lindsey wrote: This is a reasonable response to the January 27 question from Jay Hennigan. Jay specifically asked for recommended providers. Jack Santeramo recommends Commwave. If somebody had replied, pretending not to be Commwave, and offered Commwave as an example answer to Jay's question, then I doubt we'd have this discussion. I'd rather just have a vendor explain the services they offer. All the vendors are up for public ridicule^Wtroubleshooting anyway. It's best when they represent themselves. On Feb 2, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Lee Riemer wrote: Where's the moderator? On 2/2/2010 4:21 PM, Jack Santeramo wrote: Comwave Telecom is Canada's leading provider of wholesale VoIP services. We specialize in the provisioning of SIP trunking and DID origination to the carrier and reseller markets throughout Canada, the United States and Overseas. Comwave prides itself in delivering an enhanced support infrastructure via dedicated teams for technical support, DID provisioning and LNP fulfillment, in addition to E911 solutions, full fax support, billing and our Carrier Self Service Portal. Comwave is a full service provider also offering international and domestic long distance termination, toll free and an extensive white label VoIP offering. For any questions please contact Jack Santeramo at 416.953.3050 or visit www.comwave.net <http://www.comwave.net/> Regards, Jack Santeramo Comwave Telecom T 416.663.9700 X344 C 416.953.3050 F 416.736.3170 On Jan 27, 2010, at 8:42 PM, Jay Hennigan wrote: We're a VoIP provider in California with carrier arrangements for DIDs throughout much of the US. We have a few customers with offices in Canada and are beginning to get inquiries from others with cross-border US/Canadian presence. Has anyone gone down this path that can give some pointers? Obviously we can put IADs with FXO (or even PRI) ports on-premise at each customer location tied to the local telco but this doesn't scale all that well. I'm looking for legal/regulatory info about such things as taxes, 9-1-1, getting listed in the local white pages, etc. as well as any technical obstacles and recommended providers. Technically it appears to be pretty straightforward. It's all part of the same NANP. -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - jay at impulse.net Impulse Internet Service - http://www.impulse.net/ Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops

Lee Riemer wrote:

Where's the moderator?

In fairness, I recently made an inquiry regarding Canadian DIDs. I would have expected a boilerplate salesy reply such as this, if sent at all, to have been sent off-list, especially when it has a generic subject line not tied to my inquiry. So, while I may have anticipated a small taste of Hormel's famous canned spiced meatlike product in response to my inquiry, I certainly didn't intend for a truckload thereof to be delivered to the list. [Advertisement snipped, we've seen it three times now.] -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - jay at impulse.net Impulse Internet Service - http://www.impulse.net/ Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV