
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_job I have a customer who this is happening to. No clue how to track it or figure out who is doing it or how to get it to stop. Total of 10 calls to the number in 3 months, now 188 calls since 2:47pm today, all with a pretty wide variety of callerIDs. 25 Voicemails left, only one actually didn't hang up, and they spoke spanish. It seems obvious to me that someone is doing a dialer with this number (not theirs) as callerID. I can block it, but it seems to be a problem that continues to come up. Probably companies violating the telemarketing rules and trying to get away with it by using legit but not their CallerID. Thoughts? I can provide the number privately if you want to see if YOUR customer(s) are doing this specific one. Beckman --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Beckman Internet Guy beckman at angryox.com http://www.angryox.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

I have seen this as well, though with more malicious results such as 911 hangups with the customers callerID. I would love to hear any suggestions on tracing the malicious calls as well, since I know there are a lot of ITSP's that allow customers so send whatever callerID they want so this might be an exercise in futility. On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 23:35 -0500, Peter Beckman wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_job
I have a customer who this is happening to. No clue how to track it or figure out who is doing it or how to get it to stop.
Total of 10 calls to the number in 3 months, now 188 calls since 2:47pm today, all with a pretty wide variety of callerIDs.
25 Voicemails left, only one actually didn't hang up, and they spoke spanish. It seems obvious to me that someone is doing a dialer with this number (not theirs) as callerID.
I can block it, but it seems to be a problem that continues to come up. Probably companies violating the telemarketing rules and trying to get away with it by using legit but not their CallerID.
Thoughts? I can provide the number privately if you want to see if YOUR customer(s) are doing this specific one.
Beckman --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Beckman Internet Guy beckman at angryox.com http://www.angryox.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops

If it were me getting Joe'ed, I'd feel as if my personal safety were threatened by those calls and file a police/fcc/fbi report on each one. Eventually, someone will do something just to make you shut up. On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:56 PM, anorexicpoodle <anorexicpoodle at gmail.com> wrote:
I have seen this as well, though with more malicious results such as 911 hangups with the customers callerID.
I would love to hear any suggestions on tracing the malicious calls as well, since I know there are a lot of ITSP's that allow customers so send whatever callerID they want so this might be an exercise in futility.
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 23:35 -0500, Peter Beckman wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_job
I have a customer who this is happening to. No clue how to track it or figure out who is doing it or how to get it to stop.
Total of 10 calls to the number in 3 months, now 188 calls since 2:47pm today, all with a pretty wide variety of callerIDs.
25 Voicemails left, only one actually didn't hang up, and they spoke spanish. It seems obvious to me that someone is doing a dialer with this number (not theirs) as callerID.
I can block it, but it seems to be a problem that continues to come up. Probably companies violating the telemarketing rules and trying to get away with it by using legit but not their CallerID.
Thoughts? I can provide the number privately if you want to see if YOUR customer(s) are doing this specific one.
Beckman --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Beckman Internet Guy beckman at angryox.com http://www.angryox.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
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On 2/2/10 10:56 PM, anorexicpoodle wrote:
I have seen this as well, though with more malicious results such as 911 hangups with the customers callerID.
I would love to hear any suggestions on tracing the malicious calls as well, since I know there are a lot of ITSP's that allow customers so send whatever callerID they want so this might be an exercise in futility.
I think eventually this is going to result in some sort of "know your customer" legislation like the banking industry now has. If all carriers would make logical decisions based on the customer, this would not be an issue. We allow our larger and known customers to set CID, but if we take a telemarketing/call center customer we force their CID and ANI on our side. Sure, some rogue admin inside any company could play games, but it's a lot less likely. Have you checked to see if ANI is available and the same as the presented CID? -- Carlos Alvarez TelEvolve 602-889-3003 Advanced phone services simplified

Carlos Alvarez wrote:
On 2/2/10 10:56 PM, anorexicpoodle wrote:
I have seen this as well, though with more malicious results such as 911 hangups with the customers callerID.
I would love to hear any suggestions on tracing the malicious calls as well, since I know there are a lot of ITSP's that allow customers so send whatever callerID they want so this might be an exercise in futility.
I think eventually this is going to result in some sort of "know your customer" legislation like the banking industry now has. If all carriers would make logical decisions based on the customer, this would not be an issue. We allow our larger and known customers to set CID, but if we take a telemarketing/call center customer we force their CID and ANI on our side. Sure, some rogue admin inside any company could play games, but it's a lot less likely.
Have you checked to see if ANI is available and the same as the presented CID?
If this is coming in SS7 you should have the JIP in the IAM as well as a charge number. You can use that to track down the originating carrier and give them a yell. -Paul
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