Good day everyone, I was told that VoiceOps.org was a great place to begin discussions and conversations with other carriers about Voice Over IP subjects, and hope I am not breaking any rules for this forum. I am being tasked with suggesting several models of IP phones for a small hotel in Texas in which we are providing it with their Internet Service. Each provider suggested one the following wireless IP wireless models: - Yealink - W56P - SNOM - M65 - Grandstream - DP720 Then Polycom suggested going with a touchscreen phone with web browsing capabilities, for room service convenience. (VVX 500) I am a little lost as to what are the trending choices in IP phones for hotels and would like to hear your though on the matter and ideas around the use and setup of wireless IP phones or touchscreen IP phones. Best regards, -- * Ernesto Miro * Ingenier?a de Proyectos Nuevos | New Projects Engineering MX: +52 656- <%2B52%20656-692-1171>257-4131 <%2B52%20656-692-1171> US: +1 915-217-2650 AVISO DE CONFIDENCIALIDAD: Esta comunicaci?n es s?lo para el uso de la persona o entidad a la que se dirige y puede contener informaci?n privilegiada, confidencial y exenta de divulgaci?n bajo la legislaci?n aplicable. Si no es el destinatario de esta informaci?n, se le notifica que cualquier uso, difusi?n, distribuci?n o copia de la comunicaci?n est? estrictamente prohibido. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient of this information, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of the communication is strictly prohibited.
A lot would depend on how much the hotel wants to integrate into the phones, and how much they think people will use them. We're doing a system using Grandstream GXP1625s because the hotel owner says they almost never get calls. People just don't use wake-up or concierge service any more, and they do most things online. They "have to" provide a phone, but don't care for it to do much at all. I can tell you that we and our customers are 100% happy with Grandstream, and we'll never waste the cash or deal with the challenges of Polycom or Cisco again. On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Ernesto Miro Cons <emc at transtelco.net> wrote:
Good day everyone,
I was told that VoiceOps.org was a great place to begin discussions and conversations with other carriers about Voice Over IP subjects, and hope I am not breaking any rules for this forum.
I am being tasked with suggesting several models of IP phones for a small hotel in Texas in which we are providing it with their Internet Service. Each provider suggested one the following wireless IP wireless models:
- Yealink - W56P - SNOM - M65 - Grandstream - DP720
Then Polycom suggested going with a touchscreen phone with web browsing capabilities, for room service convenience. (VVX 500)
I am a little lost as to what are the trending choices in IP phones for hotels and would like to hear your though on the matter and ideas around the use and setup of wireless IP phones or touchscreen IP phones.
Best regards, --
* Ernesto Miro *
Ingenier?a de Proyectos Nuevos | New Projects Engineering
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And this may be obvious, but...lock down the phones with a good password! Also I'd recommend using MAC filtering on the phone network so people don't go hooking up laptops there and screw up voice quality or attack the voice network. On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Ernesto Miro Cons <emc at transtelco.net> wrote:
Good day everyone,
I was told that VoiceOps.org was a great place to begin discussions and conversations with other carriers about Voice Over IP subjects, and hope I am not breaking any rules for this forum.
I am being tasked with suggesting several models of IP phones for a small hotel in Texas in which we are providing it with their Internet Service. Each provider suggested one the following wireless IP wireless models:
- Yealink - W56P - SNOM - M65 - Grandstream - DP720
Then Polycom suggested going with a touchscreen phone with web browsing capabilities, for room service convenience. (VVX 500)
I am a little lost as to what are the trending choices in IP phones for hotels and would like to hear your though on the matter and ideas around the use and setup of wireless IP phones or touchscreen IP phones.
Best regards, --
* Ernesto Miro *
Ingenier?a de Proyectos Nuevos | New Projects Engineering
MX: +52 656- <%2B52%20656-692-1171>257-4131 <%2B52%20656-692-1171>
US: +1 915-217-2650
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I have never been to a hotel that used cordless phones. Cordless phones are more likely to break and lose in my opinion. Is your intention to keep from running cable? I would be looking at a cheap, basic phone. The gxp1615 fits that bill. Sincerely, Keln Taylor On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 5:42 PM, Ernesto Miro Cons <emc at transtelco.net> wrote:
Good day everyone,
I was told that VoiceOps.org was a great place to begin discussions and conversations with other carriers about Voice Over IP subjects, and hope I am not breaking any rules for this forum.
I am being tasked with suggesting several models of IP phones for a small hotel in Texas in which we are providing it with their Internet Service. Each provider suggested one the following wireless IP wireless models:
- Yealink - W56P - SNOM - M65 - Grandstream - DP720
Then Polycom suggested going with a touchscreen phone with web browsing capabilities, for room service convenience. (VVX 500)
I am a little lost as to what are the trending choices in IP phones for hotels and would like to hear your though on the matter and ideas around the use and setup of wireless IP phones or touchscreen IP phones.
Best regards, --
* Ernesto Miro *
Ingenier?a de Proyectos Nuevos | New Projects Engineering
MX: +52 656- <%2B52%20656-692-1171>257-4131 <%2B52%20656-692-1171>
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I've been to quite a number of hotels with cordless phones. Seems to be the higher end places where people are less likely to steal one or do something stupid with it. I would think this is just part of the process of discovering what the property thinks their customers will want. On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Keln Taylor <kelntaylor at gmail.com> wrote:
I have never been to a hotel that used cordless phones. Cordless phones are more likely to break and lose in my opinion. Is your intention to keep from running cable?
I would be looking at a cheap, basic phone. The gxp1615 fits that bill.
Sincerely, Keln Taylor
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 5:42 PM, Ernesto Miro Cons <emc at transtelco.net> wrote:
Good day everyone,
I was told that VoiceOps.org was a great place to begin discussions and conversations with other carriers about Voice Over IP subjects, and hope I am not breaking any rules for this forum.
I am being tasked with suggesting several models of IP phones for a small hotel in Texas in which we are providing it with their Internet Service. Each provider suggested one the following wireless IP wireless models:
- Yealink - W56P - SNOM - M65 - Grandstream - DP720
Then Polycom suggested going with a touchscreen phone with web browsing capabilities, for room service convenience. (VVX 500)
I am a little lost as to what are the trending choices in IP phones for hotels and would like to hear your though on the matter and ideas around the use and setup of wireless IP phones or touchscreen IP phones.
Best regards, --
* Ernesto Miro *
Ingenier?a de Proyectos Nuevos | New Projects Engineering
MX: +52 656- <%2B52%20656-692-1171>257-4131 <%2B52%20656-692-1171>
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The hotel is mid to high range with 42 bedrooms. IP phones are a must, and the customer suggested going with wireless. I like the GX1625 simple and cheap phone ideas some of you have voiced and will add it to the list. So far no one has mentioned using touchscreen phones, so I am tempted to remove it from the list. On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Carlos Alvarez <caalvarez at gmail.com> wrote:
I've been to quite a number of hotels with cordless phones. Seems to be the higher end places where people are less likely to steal one or do something stupid with it. I would think this is just part of the process of discovering what the property thinks their customers will want.
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Keln Taylor <kelntaylor at gmail.com> wrote:
I have never been to a hotel that used cordless phones. Cordless phones are more likely to break and lose in my opinion. Is your intention to keep from running cable?
I would be looking at a cheap, basic phone. The gxp1615 fits that bill.
Sincerely, Keln Taylor
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 5:42 PM, Ernesto Miro Cons <emc at transtelco.net> wrote:
Good day everyone,
I was told that VoiceOps.org was a great place to begin discussions and conversations with other carriers about Voice Over IP subjects, and hope I am not breaking any rules for this forum.
I am being tasked with suggesting several models of IP phones for a small hotel in Texas in which we are providing it with their Internet Service. Each provider suggested one the following wireless IP wireless models:
- Yealink - W56P - SNOM - M65 - Grandstream - DP720
Then Polycom suggested going with a touchscreen phone with web browsing capabilities, for room service convenience. (VVX 500)
I am a little lost as to what are the trending choices in IP phones for hotels and would like to hear your though on the matter and ideas around the use and setup of wireless IP phones or touchscreen IP phones.
Best regards, --
* Ernesto Miro *
Ingenier?a de Proyectos Nuevos | New Projects Engineering
MX: +52 656- <%2B52%20656-692-1171>257-4131 <%2B52%20656-692-1171>
US: +1 915-217-2650
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-- * Ernesto Miro * Ingenier?a de Proyectos Nuevos | New Projects Engineering MX: +52 656- <%2B52%20656-692-1171>257-4131 <%2B52%20656-692-1171> US: +1 915-217-2650 AVISO DE CONFIDENCIALIDAD: Esta comunicaci?n es s?lo para el uso de la persona o entidad a la que se dirige y puede contener informaci?n privilegiada, confidencial y exenta de divulgaci?n bajo la legislaci?n aplicable. Si no es el destinatario de esta informaci?n, se le notifica que cualquier uso, difusi?n, distribuci?n o copia de la comunicaci?n est? estrictamente prohibido. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient of this information, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of the communication is strictly prohibited.
Touchscreen phones only apply if the hotel has a specific desire to integrate some sort of functionality into them, or just use something glitzy that can show ads, or ideas about things to do, etc. I have a GXV3275 on my desk, and love it. The screensaver just displays family photos, but could show hotel info just as well. On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 5:17 PM, Ernesto Miro Cons <emc at transtelco.net> wrote:
The hotel is mid to high range with 42 bedrooms. IP phones are a must, and the customer suggested going with wireless.
I like the GX1625 simple and cheap phone ideas some of you have voiced and will add it to the list.
So far no one has mentioned using touchscreen phones, so I am tempted to remove it from the list.
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Carlos Alvarez <caalvarez at gmail.com> wrote:
I've been to quite a number of hotels with cordless phones. Seems to be the higher end places where people are less likely to steal one or do something stupid with it. I would think this is just part of the process of discovering what the property thinks their customers will want.
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Keln Taylor <kelntaylor at gmail.com> wrote:
I have never been to a hotel that used cordless phones. Cordless phones are more likely to break and lose in my opinion. Is your intention to keep from running cable?
I would be looking at a cheap, basic phone. The gxp1615 fits that bill.
Sincerely, Keln Taylor
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 5:42 PM, Ernesto Miro Cons <emc at transtelco.net> wrote:
Good day everyone,
I was told that VoiceOps.org was a great place to begin discussions and conversations with other carriers about Voice Over IP subjects, and hope I am not breaking any rules for this forum.
I am being tasked with suggesting several models of IP phones for a small hotel in Texas in which we are providing it with their Internet Service. Each provider suggested one the following wireless IP wireless models:
- Yealink - W56P - SNOM - M65 - Grandstream - DP720
Then Polycom suggested going with a touchscreen phone with web browsing capabilities, for room service convenience. (VVX 500)
I am a little lost as to what are the trending choices in IP phones for hotels and would like to hear your though on the matter and ideas around the use and setup of wireless IP phones or touchscreen IP phones.
Best regards, --
* Ernesto Miro *
Ingenier?a de Proyectos Nuevos | New Projects Engineering
MX: +52 656- <%2B52%20656-692-1171>257-4131 <%2B52%20656-692-1171>
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Get one of each and give them a try. I prefer the Yealink over the Snom and Grandstream. I find the styling more to my taste and prefer the UI and underlying OS. But each to their own :)
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 5:17 PM, Ernesto Miro Cons <emc at transtelco.net <mailto:emc at transtelco.net>> wrote: The hotel is mid to high range with 42 bedrooms. IP phones are a must, and the customer suggested going with wireless.
I like the GX1625 simple and cheap phone ideas some of you have voiced and will add it to the list.
So far no one has mentioned using touchscreen phones, so I am tempted to remove it from the list.
Hi Ernesto, In my opinion, trying to pick the IP Phone device for a Hotel would be the wrong way of approaching the solution. You need to nail down the other requirements (these features are typically grouped together under Hospitality Phone System), and in many cases there is a requirement to tie that into the Customer billing system. Once you nail down the backend, then you can make a decision on the handsets supported. Most of the Hotels we have as clients, are using Mitel phone system's (due to requirement to tie into the billing / customer management system). We do provide the IP/Sip PRI service to feed these phone systems. Best of Luck. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom
From: "Ernesto Miro Cons" <emc at transtelco.net> To: "voiceops at voiceops.org" <voiceops at voiceops.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 6:42:05 PM Subject: [VoiceOps] Hotel IP phones
Good day everyone,
I was told that VoiceOps.org was a great place to begin discussions and conversations with other carriers about Voice Over IP subjects, and hope I am not breaking any rules for this forum.
I am being tasked with suggesting several models of IP phones for a small hotel in Texas in which we are providing it with their Internet Service. Each provider suggested one the following wireless IP wireless models:
* Yealink - W56P * SNOM - M65 * Grandstream - DP720
Then Polycom suggested going with a touchscreen phone with web browsing capabilities, for room service convenience. (VVX 500)
I am a little lost as to what are the trending choices in IP phones for hotels and would like to hear your though on the matter and ideas around the use and setup of wireless IP phones or touchscreen IP phones.
Best regards, --
Ernesto Miro
Ingenier?a de Proyectos Nuevos | New Projects Engineering
MX: +52 656- 257-4131
US: +1 915-217-2650
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I suggest they consider their target customer demographic. If catering to the weary transient traveler or the elderly pensioner, keeping it simple might be the best plan, so get an inexpensive proven IP phone like one of the Grandstreams. If they are a modern facility with an eye on enabling technology, I would consider ditching the phone entirely and instead look into a fixed-mount tablet or even a custom-firmware Echo Dot or Google Home, especially if this is a ground-up remodel or a completely new facility. The days of limited-function devices are done. Circling back, however, you said small hotel in Texas. Without additional reference, that could be a 100-room suburban or even smaller rural facility, so Tomorrowland might be overkill, in which case they may only need basic budget communication with the front desk. Cheers, Nick
On Jan 4, 2017, at 6:42 PM, Ernesto Miro Cons <emc at transtelco.net> wrote:
Good day everyone,
I was told that VoiceOps.org was a great place to begin discussions and conversations with other carriers about Voice Over IP subjects, and hope I am not breaking any rules for this forum.
I am being tasked with suggesting several models of IP phones for a small hotel in Texas in which we are providing it with their Internet Service. Each provider suggested one the following wireless IP wireless models: Yealink - W56P SNOM - M65 Grandstream - DP720
Then Polycom suggested going with a touchscreen phone with web browsing capabilities, for room service convenience. (VVX 500)
I am a little lost as to what are the trending choices in IP phones for hotels and would like to hear your though on the matter and ideas around the use and setup of wireless IP phones or touchscreen IP phones.
Best regards, --
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Since I haven't seen it mentioned here yet... you may want to take a look at the VTech cordless solution, specifically the VSP600 - https://businessphones.vtech.com/pd/2546/VSP600-ErisTerminal-SIP-DECT-Base-S... This one can have 6 phones per base, and can each be named room number, accordingly. Easy provisioning, and remote control. In our tests this phone performs far better than the other cordless options around, including Grandstream. Good luck, *Glenn* On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Ernesto Miro Cons <emc at transtelco.net> wrote:
Good day everyone,
I was told that VoiceOps.org was a great place to begin discussions and conversations with other carriers about Voice Over IP subjects, and hope I am not breaking any rules for this forum.
I am being tasked with suggesting several models of IP phones for a small hotel in Texas in which we are providing it with their Internet Service. Each provider suggested one the following wireless IP wireless models:
- Yealink - W56P - SNOM - M65 - Grandstream - DP720
Then Polycom suggested going with a touchscreen phone with web browsing capabilities, for room service convenience. (VVX 500)
I am a little lost as to what are the trending choices in IP phones for hotels and would like to hear your though on the matter and ideas around the use and setup of wireless IP phones or touchscreen IP phones.
Best regards, --
* Ernesto Miro *
Ingenier?a de Proyectos Nuevos | New Projects Engineering
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+1 for the VTech VSP600 in the general SOHO use case. I've had them for a while and they're very good. I think that others raise important issues about integration with hotel specific onsite systems, like house management, billing, etc. In my past like when I traveled extensively I noted that larger hotels always had analog phones in the rooms. I was told that these were inexpensive and offered by companies that provided the back-end integration. It was often critical that there be a phone in each room so that housekeeping could use it to log as each room is refreshed. Michael Graves mgraves at mstvp.com http://www.mgraves.org o(713) 861-4005 c(713) 201-1262 sip:mgraves at mjg.onsip.com skype mjgraves --------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Hotel IP phones From: "Glenn Geller (VDOPh)" <ggeller at vdo-ph.com> Date: 1/5/17 12:15 am To: "Ernesto Miro Cons" <emc at transtelco.net> Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org Since I haven't seen it mentioned here yet... you may want to take a look at the VTech cordless solution, specifically the VSP600 - https://businessphones.vtech.com/pd/2546/VSP600-ErisTerminal-SIP-DECT-Base-S... This one can have 6 phones per base, and can each be named room number, accordingly. Easy provisioning, and remote control. In our tests this phone performs far better than the other cordless options around, including Grandstream. Good luck, Glenn On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Ernesto Miro Cons <emc at transtelco.net> wrote: Good day everyone, I was told that VoiceOps.org was a great place to begin discussions and conversations with other carriers about Voice Over IP subjects, and hope I am not breaking any rules for this forum. I am being tasked with suggesting several models of IP phones for a small hotel in Texas in which we are providing it with their Internet Service. Each provider suggested one the following wireless IP wireless models: + Yealink - W56P + SNOM - M65 + Grandstream - DP720 Then Polycom suggested going with a touchscreen phone with web browsing capabilities, for room service convenience. (VVX 500) I am a little lost as to what are the trending choices in IP phones for hotels and would like to hear your though on the matter and ideas around the use and setup of wireless IP phones or touchscreen IP phones. Best regards, -- Ernesto Miro Ingeniería de Proyectos Nuevos | New Projects Engineering MX: +52 656-257-4131 US: +1 915-217-2650 AVISO DE CONFIDENCIALIDAD: Esta comunicación es sólo para el uso de la persona o entidad a la que se dirige y puede contener información privilegiada, confidencial y exenta de divulgación bajo la legislación aplicable. Si no es el destinatario de esta información, se le notifica que cualquier uso, difusión, distribución o copia de la comunicación está estrictamente prohibido. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient of this information, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of the communication is strictly prohibited. _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
"It was often critical that there be a phone in each room so that housekeeping could use it to log as each room is refreshed." Is this seriously still a core requirement for in-room telephones in a "modern" hotel installation?
On Jan 5, 2017, at 7:52 AM, mgraves at mstvp.com wrote:
It was often critical that there be a phone in each room so that housekeeping could use it to log as each room is refreshed.
Curiously, Tadiran Telecom, who are a specialist in hospitality telecom solutions, actually sells rebandged Yealink. http://www.tadirantele.com/en/products/phones/tadiran-t49g/ Michael Graves mgraves at mstvp.com http://www.mgraves.org o(713) 861-4005 c(713) 201-1262 sip:mgraves at mjg.onsip.com skype mjgraves --------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Hotel IP phones From: "Nicholas Sten" <nicksten at gmail.com> Date: 1/5/17 6:57 am To: mgraves at mstvp.com Cc: "Glenn Geller (VDOPh)" <ggeller at vdo-ph.com>, "Ernesto Miro Cons" <emc at transtelco.net>, voiceops at voiceops.org "It was often critical that there be a phone in each room so that housekeeping could use it to log as each room is refreshed." Is this seriously still a core requirement for in-room telephones in a "modern" hotel installation?
On Jan 5, 2017, at 7:52 AM, mgraves at mstvp.com wrote:
It was often critical that there be a phone in each room so that housekeeping could use it to log as each room is refreshed.
On 1/5/2017 7:52 AM, mgraves at mstvp.com wrote:
In my past like when I traveled extensively I noted that larger hotels always had analog phones in the rooms. I was told that these were inexpensive and offered by companies that provided the back-end integration.
It was often critical that there be a phone in each room so that housekeeping could use it to log as each room is refreshed.
In a previous lifetime, I managed IT for large "Conference" Hotels and "Resort" Hotels. I never saw an analog phone, all were 2-wire digital tied into usually a Lucent Definity or similar. There was usually an "interface box" that ran a multi-port serial card that connected all the various components to the Property Management System. The contracts on those PBX boxes were not cheap, and yes, the vendors would almost give the phones away if you were under contract. And yes, housekeeping used the phones to send codes to the PMS that the room was clean (which would also toggle available/ready if vacant). Maintenance could also use the phones to place a room "off-market" if they needed to perform repairs. Regards, dtb
a few months ago we setup the phone system for a new NYC hotel, really modern hotel in Brooklyn NY after months of researching and looking at many many options we have the experience and able to handle these setups, reach out directly if you need any help or advise etc On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Dave Brockman <dave at brockmans.com> wrote:
On 1/5/2017 7:52 AM, mgraves at mstvp.com wrote:
In my past like when I traveled extensively I noted that larger hotels always had analog phones in the rooms. I was told that these were inexpensive and offered by companies that provided the back-end integration.
It was often critical that there be a phone in each room so that housekeeping could use it to log as each room is refreshed.
In a previous lifetime, I managed IT for large "Conference" Hotels and "Resort" Hotels. I never saw an analog phone, all were 2-wire digital tied into usually a Lucent Definity or similar. There was usually an "interface box" that ran a multi-port serial card that connected all the various components to the Property Management System. The contracts on those PBX boxes were not cheap, and yes, the vendors would almost give the phones away if you were under contract.
And yes, housekeeping used the phones to send codes to the PMS that the room was clean (which would also toggle available/ready if vacant). Maintenance could also use the phones to place a room "off-market" if they needed to perform repairs.
Regards,
dtb
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For hotels, there is a customer we work with who made just such an ?interface box? as well as the software interface to link a cloud system with standard VoIP phones, ATAs and the property management systems at a bunch of hotels. They are way cheaper than the proprietary systems people apparently buy at these hotels. I don?t know how it all works frankly but I know they added the maid service features (room ready/not ready/being cleaned), CDR billing, voicemail reset on check-in/check-out and so on. http://www.vsrnt.com/ is their website. I?m happy to introduce you to them personally, too, if you like. They seem to be growing quite a bit so they are doing something right ? if nothing else you can ask them how they did it. From: VoiceOps <voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org> on behalf of Izzy Goldstein - TeleGo <igoldstein at telego.net> Date: Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 8:10 AM To: Dave Brockman <dave at brockmans.com> Cc: "voiceops at voiceops.org" <voiceops at voiceops.org> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Hotel IP phones a few months ago we setup the phone system for a new NYC hotel, really modern hotel in Brooklyn NY after months of researching and looking at many many options we have the experience and able to handle these setups, reach out directly if you need any help or advise etc On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Dave Brockman <dave at brockmans.com<mailto:dave at brockmans.com>> wrote: On 1/5/2017 7:52 AM, mgraves at mstvp.com<mailto:mgraves at mstvp.com> wrote:
In my past like when I traveled extensively I noted that larger hotels always had analog phones in the rooms. I was told that these were inexpensive and offered by companies that provided the back-end integration.
It was often critical that there be a phone in each room so that housekeeping could use it to log as each room is refreshed.
In a previous lifetime, I managed IT for large "Conference" Hotels and "Resort" Hotels. I never saw an analog phone, all were 2-wire digital tied into usually a Lucent Definity or similar. There was usually an "interface box" that ran a multi-port serial card that connected all the various components to the Property Management System. The contracts on those PBX boxes were not cheap, and yes, the vendors would almost give the phones away if you were under contract. And yes, housekeeping used the phones to send codes to the PMS that the room was clean (which would also toggle available/ready if vacant). Maintenance could also use the phones to place a room "off-market" if they needed to perform repairs. Regards, dtb _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org<mailto:VoiceOps at voiceops.org> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops -- Izzy Goldstein Chief Technology Officer Main: (212) 477-1000 x 2085<tel:(212)%20477-1000> Direct: (929) 477-2085<tel:(929)%20477-2085> Website: www.telego.com<http://www.telego.net/> [https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/Ze7NkT2QtotXfVWbpWXrpSMRIcAdqb0Ci0_RZsAjQzmRrd-_v02-O86QlqwZnGUE8SlBECXBvJUPXSH7ZRyDvDVeaXQFSS5SiA4gan112DN-0s2D3prRdt2UeUprZQEo1YmUFfZ7]<http://www.telego.com/> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient or have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately by email reply and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of TeleGo (T). Employees of TeleGo are expressly required not to make defamatory statements and not to infringe or authorize any infringement of copyright or any other legal right by email communications. Any such communication is contrary to TeleGo policy and outside the scope of the employment of the individual concerned. TeleGo will not accept any liability in respect of such communication, and the employee responsible will be personally liable for any damages or other liability arising. TeleGo Hosted PBX<https://youtu.be/DaT8YAZ4V0w>
Where is Texas is this hotel? I believe there is a certain spec of phones that most hotels require. It has something to do with germ free so all the button on the phone can't have people germs on it, and maid staff can easily wipe down the phones. On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 7:40 PM, Darren Schreiber <dschreiber at 2600hz.com> wrote:
For hotels, there is a customer we work with who made just such an ?interface box? as well as the software interface to link a cloud system with standard VoIP phones, ATAs and the property management systems at a bunch of hotels. They are way cheaper than the proprietary systems people apparently buy at these hotels. I don?t know how it all works frankly but I know they added the maid service features (room ready/not ready/being cleaned), CDR billing, voicemail reset on check-in/check-out and so on.
http://www.vsrnt.com/ is their website. I?m happy to introduce you to them personally, too, if you like. They seem to be growing quite a bit so they are doing something right J
if nothing else you can ask them how they did it.
*From: *VoiceOps <voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org> on behalf of Izzy Goldstein - TeleGo <igoldstein at telego.net> *Date: *Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 8:10 AM *To: *Dave Brockman <dave at brockmans.com> *Cc: *"voiceops at voiceops.org" <voiceops at voiceops.org> *Subject: *Re: [VoiceOps] Hotel IP phones
a few months ago we setup the phone system for a new NYC hotel, really modern hotel in Brooklyn NY
after months of researching and looking at many many options
we have the experience and able to handle these setups, reach out directly if you need any help or advise etc
On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Dave Brockman <dave at brockmans.com> wrote:
On 1/5/2017 7:52 AM, mgraves at mstvp.com wrote:
In my past like when I traveled extensively I noted that larger hotels always had analog phones in the rooms. I was told that these were inexpensive and offered by companies that provided the back-end integration.
It was often critical that there be a phone in each room so that housekeeping could use it to log as each room is refreshed.
In a previous lifetime, I managed IT for large "Conference" Hotels and "Resort" Hotels. I never saw an analog phone, all were 2-wire digital tied into usually a Lucent Definity or similar. There was usually an "interface box" that ran a multi-port serial card that connected all the various components to the Property Management System. The contracts on those PBX boxes were not cheap, and yes, the vendors would almost give the phones away if you were under contract.
And yes, housekeeping used the phones to send codes to the PMS that the room was clean (which would also toggle available/ready if vacant). Maintenance could also use the phones to place a room "off-market" if they needed to perform repairs.
Regards,
dtb
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It is a small hotel in El Paso. there is a splash-proof version of the SNOM wireless headset, but the price is more than tripled than its counterpart. On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 8:01 AM, Colton Conor <colton.conor at gmail.com> wrote:
Where is Texas is this hotel?
I believe there is a certain spec of phones that most hotels require. It has something to do with germ free so all the button on the phone can't have people germs on it, and maid staff can easily wipe down the phones.
On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 7:40 PM, Darren Schreiber <dschreiber at 2600hz.com> wrote:
For hotels, there is a customer we work with who made just such an ?interface box? as well as the software interface to link a cloud system with standard VoIP phones, ATAs and the property management systems at a bunch of hotels. They are way cheaper than the proprietary systems people apparently buy at these hotels. I don?t know how it all works frankly but I know they added the maid service features (room ready/not ready/being cleaned), CDR billing, voicemail reset on check-in/check-out and so on.
http://www.vsrnt.com/ is their website. I?m happy to introduce you to them personally, too, if you like. They seem to be growing quite a bit so they are doing something right J
if nothing else you can ask them how they did it.
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a few months ago we setup the phone system for a new NYC hotel, really modern hotel in Brooklyn NY
after months of researching and looking at many many options
we have the experience and able to handle these setups, reach out directly if you need any help or advise etc
On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Dave Brockman <dave at brockmans.com> wrote:
On 1/5/2017 7:52 AM, mgraves at mstvp.com wrote:
In my past like when I traveled extensively I noted that larger hotels always had analog phones in the rooms. I was told that these were inexpensive and offered by companies that provided the back-end integration.
It was often critical that there be a phone in each room so that housekeeping could use it to log as each room is refreshed.
In a previous lifetime, I managed IT for large "Conference" Hotels and "Resort" Hotels. I never saw an analog phone, all were 2-wire digital tied into usually a Lucent Definity or similar. There was usually an "interface box" that ran a multi-port serial card that connected all the various components to the Property Management System. The contracts on those PBX boxes were not cheap, and yes, the vendors would almost give the phones away if you were under contract.
And yes, housekeeping used the phones to send codes to the PMS that the room was clean (which would also toggle available/ready if vacant). Maintenance could also use the phones to place a room "off-market" if they needed to perform repairs.
Regards,
dtb
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Glen & Ernesto, I?ve got sort of the same style phone, (Mine?s a Panasonic KX-TGP500) and the Vtech has a ?Maximum number of call handling: 2?.? I?d have to imagine that to be a deal breaker for a phone selection.? Each of the above mentioned phone bases support 6 handsets. The Panasonic can support 3 calls so that brings it from 1/3 to ? of your phones, but I?d still be surprised if that isn?t considered ?a deal breaker.? I?d be interested to hear if it isn?t a deal breaker for this particular service.? I love my Panasonic phones.? They take standard AAA batteries that are easy to source/replace when necessary.? Their hands free mode is easy to use and has nice volume and a good microphone for its size.? The display is large and easy to read.? My 80+ year old parents use them all the time. Good Luck! Jay From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Geller (VDOPh) Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2017 12:16 AM To: Ernesto Miro Cons Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Hotel IP phones Since I haven't seen it mentioned here yet... you may want to take a look at the VTech cordless solution, specifically the VSP600 - https://businessphones.vtech.com/pd/2546/VSP600-ErisTerminal-SIP-DECT-Base-S... This one can have 6 phones per base, and can each be named room number, accordingly. Easy provisioning, and remote control. In our tests this phone performs far better than the other cordless options around, including Grandstream. Good luck, Glenn On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Ernesto Miro Cons <emc at transtelco.net> wrote: Good day everyone, I was told that VoiceOps.org was a great place to begin discussions and conversations with other carriers about Voice Over IP subjects, and hope I am not breaking any rules for this forum. I am being tasked with suggesting several models of IP phones for a small hotel in Texas in which we are providing it with their Internet Service. Each provider suggested one the following wireless IP wireless models: * Yealink - W56P * SNOM - M65 * Grandstream - DP720 Then Polycom suggested going with a touchscreen phone with web browsing capabilities, for room service convenience. (VVX 500) I am a little lost as to what are the trending choices in IP phones for hotels and would like to hear your though on the matter and ideas around the use and setup of wireless IP phones or touchscreen IP phones. Best regards, -- Ernesto Miro Ingenier?a de Proyectos Nuevos | New Projects Engineering MX: +52 656-257-4131 US: +1 915-217-2650 AVISO DE CONFIDENCIALIDAD: Esta comunicaci?n es s?lo para el uso de la persona o entidad a la que se dirige y puede contener informaci?n privilegiada, confidencial y exenta de divulgaci?n bajo la legislaci?n aplicable. Si no es el destinatario de esta informaci?n, se le notifica que cualquier uso, difusi?n, distribuci?n o copia de la comunicaci?n est? estrictamente prohibido. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient of this information, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of the communication is strictly prohibited. _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
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