Does anyone here use DIDX or some other similar service to sell DIDs? We are considering this to make a bit of money, not expecting to get rich, but seems to be a useful revenue stream? Any advice or pitfalls concerning this plan? Thanks! -Eric
I looked into DIDX to sell DIDs and generate some usage/$$. I did some quick napkin math and realized that the first time we had to handle a port out request on one of the DIDs we would lose any $$ we made. I may use DIDX to source inbound DIDs but I don't plan on selling any of my switch capacity/DIDs to them. -Matt ----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Hiller" <clec at cygnustel.com> To: voiceops at voiceops.org Sent: Monday, February 7, 2011 12:10:07 PM Subject: [VoiceOps] DID Exchange Does anyone here use DIDX or some other similar service to sell DIDs? We are considering this to make a bit of money, not expecting to get rich, but seems to be a useful revenue stream?
Any advice or pitfalls concerning this plan?
Thanks! -Eric
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Speaking purely anecdotally: DIDX is a dangerously amateur company and should be avoided. They are a principally overseas-based operation rigged up with very naive infrastructure, and comparable technical expertise. However, other clearinghouses of this nature should perhaps be looked into. -- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC 260 Peachtree Street NW Suite 2200 Atlanta, GA 30303 Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Fax: +1-404-961-1892 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/
Ok, I completely agree with Alex, just didn't want to jump on them as harshly (but truthfully) as he did. Alex Balashov wrote:
Speaking purely anecdotally: DIDX is a dangerously amateur company and should be avoided. They are a principally overseas-based operation rigged up with very naive infrastructure, and comparable technical expertise.
However, other clearinghouses of this nature should perhaps be looked into.
-- Carlos Alvarez TelEvolve 602-889-3003
I'm deeply unfond of talking trash for its own sake, but the whole thing has become a running joke among people who really know what they're doing... I have seen it play out too many times to do someone the disservice of not warning them. On 02/07/2011 12:19 PM, Carlos Alvarez wrote:
Ok, I completely agree with Alex, just didn't want to jump on them as harshly (but truthfully) as he did.
Alex Balashov wrote:
Speaking purely anecdotally: DIDX is a dangerously amateur company and should be avoided. They are a principally overseas-based operation rigged up with very naive infrastructure, and comparable technical expertise.
However, other clearinghouses of this nature should perhaps be looked into.
-- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC 260 Peachtree Street NW Suite 2200 Atlanta, GA 30303 Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Fax: +1-404-961-1892 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/
And I greatly appreciate the advice, exactly why I asked before I jumped into it. So the next question: is the whole concept of origination services like didx void or just doing business with didx? -Eric On Mon, February 7, 2011 11:40 am, Alex Balashov wrote:
I'm deeply unfond of talking trash for its own sake, but the whole thing has become a running joke among people who really know what they're doing... I have seen it play out too many times to do someone the disservice of not warning them.
On 02/07/2011 12:19 PM, Carlos Alvarez wrote:
Ok, I completely agree with Alex, just didn't want to jump on them as harshly (but truthfully) as he did.
Alex Balashov wrote:
Speaking purely anecdotally: DIDX is a dangerously amateur company and should be avoided. They are a principally overseas-based operation rigged up with very naive infrastructure, and comparable technical expertise.
However, other clearinghouses of this nature should perhaps be looked into.
-- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC 260 Peachtree Street NW Suite 2200 Atlanta, GA 30303 Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Fax: +1-404-961-1892 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/ _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
On 02/07/2011 01:11 PM, Eric Hiller wrote:
So the next question: is the whole concept of origination services like didx void or just doing business with didx?
I would say the latter. The concept seems otherwise viable. -- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC 260 Peachtree Street NW Suite 2200 Atlanta, GA 30303 Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Fax: +1-404-961-1892 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com>wrote:
On 02/07/2011 01:11 PM, Eric Hiller wrote:
So the next question: is the whole concept of origination services like
didx void or just doing business with didx?
I would say the latter. The concept seems otherwise viable.
Speaking of, I haven't had much experience with DID Logic (a couple DIDs a year ago), but my experience was very positive: https://didlogic.com/ DID Logic has polish in all the areas that DIDx doesn't - signup process, Web portal, English-speaking support, and transparency about call processing. I would have considered DID Logic for permanent production DIDs. Troy (speaking for himself) -- http://twitter.com/troyd
We also listed about 100+ DIDs with DIDExchange , and so far not much luck. On other hand, We are looking to barter DIDs with other regional CLECs. We are New York based CLEC and We are looking for DIDs from all metro areas including (Chicago,Dallas, Atlanta, LA, Bay area, DC,New jersey, Miami, Orlando ,etc. to name few) . Please contact me offline. Regards, Jignasa On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Eric Hiller <clec at cygnustel.com> wrote:
And I greatly appreciate the advice, exactly why I asked before I jumped into it.
So the next question: is the whole concept of origination services like didx void or just doing business with didx?
-Eric
On Mon, February 7, 2011 11:40 am, Alex Balashov wrote:
I'm deeply unfond of talking trash for its own sake, but the whole thing has become a running joke among people who really know what they're doing... I have seen it play out too many times to do someone the disservice of not warning them.
On 02/07/2011 12:19 PM, Carlos Alvarez wrote:
Ok, I completely agree with Alex, just didn't want to jump on them as harshly (but truthfully) as he did.
Alex Balashov wrote:
Speaking purely anecdotally: DIDX is a dangerously amateur company and should be avoided. They are a principally overseas-based operation rigged up with very naive infrastructure, and comparable technical expertise.
However, other clearinghouses of this nature should perhaps be looked into.
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We gave it a shot and uploaded 200 numbers. I think we got 5-10 sales, nothing of any value. We priced them lower than the others in our area. The interop process is a bit buggy and interaction with their support team was slow and non-English-speaking, very hard to understand. Eric Hiller wrote:
Does anyone here use DIDX or some other similar service to sell DIDs? We are considering this to make a bit of money, not expecting to get rich, but seems to be a useful revenue stream?
Any advice or pitfalls concerning this plan?
Thanks! -Eric
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On 02/07/2011 12:18 PM, Carlos Alvarez wrote:
We gave it a shot and uploaded 200 numbers. I think we got 5-10 sales, nothing of any value. We priced them lower than the others in our area. The interop process is a bit buggy and interaction with their support team was slow and non-English-speaking, very hard to understand.
Yep. I know of someone who was plagued by the fact that their automatic call completion testing was constantly (almost daily) flagging their numbers as not working, and it was impossible to get it fixed due to lack of English and SIP comprehension on the other end. As someone who invested quite a lot of time in the idea of selling DIDs this way, said customer was very pissed. -- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC 260 Peachtree Street NW Suite 2200 Atlanta, GA 30303 Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Fax: +1-404-961-1892 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/
The only sales we ever got of DIDs on DIDx were temporary, and were all used to get calls from voice verification systems that are designed to verify you own the number. Then they canceled them within 24 hours so we got nothing for it, and the ticket we opened to address our concerns that we were a conduit for fraud went to deaf ears. If they spent as much time on their network as they did going to trade shows and the like, they'd be far more successful. -Paul On 02/07/2011 12:18 PM, Carlos Alvarez wrote:
We gave it a shot and uploaded 200 numbers. I think we got 5-10 sales, nothing of any value. We priced them lower than the others in our area. The interop process is a bit buggy and interaction with their support team was slow and non-English-speaking, very hard to understand.
Eric Hiller wrote:
Does anyone here use DIDX or some other similar service to sell DIDs? We are considering this to make a bit of money, not expecting to get rich, but seems to be a useful revenue stream?
Any advice or pitfalls concerning this plan?
Thanks! -Eric
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We tried quite hard to use DIDX and gave up - couldn't agree sensible commercial terms, their API's not terribly good, nor is their support. Which is a pity, as there's potentially a useful service there. The model we use is to give DIDs away and to take the interconnect revenue generated from the call traffic. That's worked quite nicely for us. --Dave
Does anyone here use DIDX or some other similar service to sell DIDs? We are considering this to make a bit of money, not expecting to get rich, but seems to be a useful revenue stream?
Any advice or pitfalls concerning this plan?
Thanks! -Eric
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Dave, Do you sell directly then or do you go through another more reliable service equivalent to DIDX? -Eric On Mon, February 7, 2011 11:57 am, David Knell wrote:
We tried quite hard to use DIDX and gave up - couldn't agree sensible commercial terms, their API's not terribly good, nor is their support. Which is a pity, as there's potentially a useful service there.
The model we use is to give DIDs away and to take the interconnect revenue generated from the call traffic. That's worked quite nicely for us.
--Dave
Does anyone here use DIDX or some other similar service to sell DIDs? We are considering this to make a bit of money, not expecting to get rich, but seems to be a useful revenue stream?
Any advice or pitfalls concerning this plan?
Thanks! -Eric
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Hi Eric - We do it directly - set up the slightly light on web design http://www.ukddi.com a couple of years ago. It pretty much looks after itself. --Dave
Dave,
Do you sell directly then or do you go through another more reliable service equivalent to DIDX?
-Eric
On Mon, February 7, 2011 11:57 am, David Knell wrote:
We tried quite hard to use DIDX and gave up - couldn't agree sensible commercial terms, their API's not terribly good, nor is their support. Which is a pity, as there's potentially a useful service there.
The model we use is to give DIDs away and to take the interconnect revenue generated from the call traffic. That's worked quite nicely for us.
--Dave
Does anyone here use DIDX or some other similar service to sell DIDs? We are considering this to make a bit of money, not expecting to get rich, but seems to be a useful revenue stream?
Any advice or pitfalls concerning this plan?
Thanks! -Eric
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