Carriers that allow CNAM dips via SIP Subscribe?

Hello VoIP Gurus! I'm hoping one of you might be able to help narrow my search. Has anyone had any experience, either good or bad, with any particular carriers in getting CNAM queries working using SIP Subscribes? I have seen a few offer it via HTTP, but that won't work for my platform without developing a custom proxy to translate the SIP to HTTP and back again. Any leads would be greatly appreciated, either on or off list. Thanks! -- Victor Breen, VoIP Systems Administrator Impulse Advanced Communications (805) 456-5800

I built a shim for BroadSoft's callingName stuff using jain-sip-api and it was only quiet small ~500 lines (although working from flat-file not http). BroadSoft I believe 'holds' the call during the SUBSCRIBE query, so a speedy response is pretty mandatory, so you may want some type of caching layer between you and your service provider anyway... On 02/02/2011, at 12:56 PM, Victor Breen wrote:
Hello VoIP Gurus!
I'm hoping one of you might be able to help narrow my search. Has anyone had any experience, either good or bad, with any particular carriers in getting CNAM queries working using SIP Subscribes? I have seen a few offer it via HTTP, but that won't work for my platform without developing a custom proxy to translate the SIP to HTTP and back again.
Any leads would be greatly appreciated, either on or off list.
Thanks!
-- Victor Breen, VoIP Systems Administrator Impulse Advanced Communications (805) 456-5800
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We've centralized our dips via sip to TNS over the last year with our Broadsoft platform. It has worked quite well and simplified things in operations. Doug Knight|?Vice President Telovations?| (813) 321-1030 1410 N. West Shore Blvd, Suite?700,?Tampa, FL 33607 Visit us online at: www.telovations.com -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Victor Breen Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:26 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: [VoiceOps] Carriers that allow CNAM dips via SIP Subscribe? Hello VoIP Gurus! I'm hoping one of you might be able to help narrow my search. Has anyone had any experience, either good or bad, with any particular carriers in getting CNAM queries working using SIP Subscribes? I have seen a few offer it via HTTP, but that won't work for my platform without developing a custom proxy to translate the SIP to HTTP and back again. Any leads would be greatly appreciated, either on or off list. Thanks! -- Victor Breen, VoIP Systems Administrator Impulse Advanced Communications (805) 456-5800 _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops

TNS works great with BW. One scratchy point... BW runs their SUBSCRIBEs on the access side, so a single call that hits a 10 user hunt group will generate 10 dips. David Hiers CCIE (R/S, V), CISSP ADP Dealer Services 2525 SW 1st Ave. Suite 300W Portland, OR 97201 o: 503-205-4467 f: 503-402-3277 -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Doug Knight Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 5:09 AM To: Victor Breen; voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Carriers that allow CNAM dips via SIP Subscribe? We've centralized our dips via sip to TNS over the last year with our Broadsoft platform. It has worked quite well and simplified things in operations. Doug Knight|?Vice President Telovations?| (813) 321-1030 1410 N. West Shore Blvd, Suite?700,?Tampa, FL 33607 Visit us online at: www.telovations.com -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Victor Breen Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:26 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: [VoiceOps] Carriers that allow CNAM dips via SIP Subscribe? Hello VoIP Gurus! I'm hoping one of you might be able to help narrow my search. Has anyone had any experience, either good or bad, with any particular carriers in getting CNAM queries working using SIP Subscribes? I have seen a few offer it via HTTP, but that won't work for my platform without developing a custom proxy to translate the SIP to HTTP and back again. Any leads would be greatly appreciated, either on or off list. Thanks! -- Victor Breen, VoIP Systems Administrator Impulse Advanced Communications (805) 456-5800 _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system.

That's great to know about BW, actually. I think might be ok in that respect since I want to implement this on my SBCs in front which (I hope) will not present any other ballooning call leg scenarios. Thanks to all of you for the suggestions! -- Victor Breen, VoIP Systems Administrator Impulse Advanced Communications (805) 456-5800 ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hiers" <David_Hiers at adp.com> To: "Doug Knight" <DKnight at telovations.com>, "Victor Breen" <victor at impulse.net>, voiceops at voiceops.org Sent: Wednesday, February 2, 2011 6:27:43 AM Subject: RE: [VoiceOps] Carriers that allow CNAM dips via SIP Subscribe? TNS works great with BW. One scratchy point... BW runs their SUBSCRIBEs on the access side, so a single call that hits a 10 user hunt group will generate 10 dips. David Hiers CCIE (R/S, V), CISSP ADP Dealer Services 2525 SW 1st Ave. Suite 300W Portland, OR 97201 o: 503-205-4467 f: 503-402-3277 -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Doug Knight Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 5:09 AM To: Victor Breen; voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Carriers that allow CNAM dips via SIP Subscribe? We've centralized our dips via sip to TNS over the last year with our Broadsoft platform. It has worked quite well and simplified things in operations. Doug Knight|?Vice President Telovations?| (813) 321-1030 1410 N. West Shore Blvd, Suite?700,?Tampa, FL 33607 Visit us online at: www.telovations.com -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Victor Breen Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:26 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: [VoiceOps] Carriers that allow CNAM dips via SIP Subscribe? Hello VoIP Gurus! I'm hoping one of you might be able to help narrow my search. Has anyone had any experience, either good or bad, with any particular carriers in getting CNAM queries working using SIP Subscribes? I have seen a few offer it via HTTP, but that won't work for my platform without developing a custom proxy to translate the SIP to HTTP and back again. Any leads would be greatly appreciated, either on or off list. Thanks! -- Victor Breen, VoIP Systems Administrator Impulse Advanced Communications (805) 456-5800 _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system.

What are folks paying per CNAM dip? -Dane On Feb 2, 2011, at 11:26 AM, Victor Breen <victor at impulse.net> wrote:
That's great to know about BW, actually. I think might be ok in that respect since I want to implement this on my SBCs in front which (I hope) will not present any other ballooning call leg scenarios.
Thanks to all of you for the suggestions!
-- Victor Breen, VoIP Systems Administrator Impulse Advanced Communications (805) 456-5800
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hiers" <David_Hiers at adp.com> To: "Doug Knight" <DKnight at telovations.com>, "Victor Breen" <victor at impulse.net>, voiceops at voiceops.org Sent: Wednesday, February 2, 2011 6:27:43 AM Subject: RE: [VoiceOps] Carriers that allow CNAM dips via SIP Subscribe?
TNS works great with BW.
One scratchy point... BW runs their SUBSCRIBEs on the access side, so a single call that hits a 10 user hunt group will generate 10 dips.
David Hiers
CCIE (R/S, V), CISSP ADP Dealer Services 2525 SW 1st Ave. Suite 300W Portland, OR 97201 o: 503-205-4467 f: 503-402-3277
-----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Doug Knight Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 5:09 AM To: Victor Breen; voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Carriers that allow CNAM dips via SIP Subscribe?
We've centralized our dips via sip to TNS over the last year with our Broadsoft platform. It has worked quite well and simplified things in operations.
Doug Knight| Vice President Telovations | (813) 321-1030 1410 N. West Shore Blvd, Suite 700, Tampa, FL 33607 Visit us online at: www.telovations.com
-----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Victor Breen Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:26 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: [VoiceOps] Carriers that allow CNAM dips via SIP Subscribe?
Hello VoIP Gurus!
I'm hoping one of you might be able to help narrow my search. Has anyone had any experience, either good or bad, with any particular carriers in getting CNAM queries working using SIP Subscribes? I have seen a few offer it via HTTP, but that won't work for my platform without developing a custom proxy to translate the SIP to HTTP and back again.
Any leads would be greatly appreciated, either on or off list.
Thanks!
-- Victor Breen, VoIP Systems Administrator Impulse Advanced Communications (805) 456-5800
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With the Directory Number Hunting service on BW, we are only seeing one CNAM query. On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:26 PM, Victor Breen wrote: That's great to know about BW, actually. I think might be ok in that respect since I want to implement this on my SBCs in front which (I hope) will not present any other ballooning call leg scenarios. Thanks to all of you for the suggestions! -- Victor Breen, VoIP Systems Administrator Impulse Advanced Communications (805) 456-5800 ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hiers" <David_Hiers at adp.com> To: "Doug Knight" <DKnight at telovations.com>, "Victor Breen" <victor at impulse.net>, voiceops at voiceops.org Sent: Wednesday, February 2, 2011 6:27:43 AM Subject: RE: [VoiceOps] Carriers that allow CNAM dips via SIP Subscribe? TNS works great with BW. One scratchy point... BW runs their SUBSCRIBEs on the access side, so a single call that hits a 10 user hunt group will generate 10 dips. David Hiers CCIE (R/S, V), CISSP ADP Dealer Services 2525 SW 1st Ave. Suite 300W Portland, OR 97201 o: 503-205-4467 f: 503-402-3277 -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Doug Knight Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 5:09 AM To: Victor Breen; voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Carriers that allow CNAM dips via SIP Subscribe? We've centralized our dips via sip to TNS over the last year with our Broadsoft platform. It has worked quite well and simplified things in operations. Doug Knight| Vice President Telovations | (813) 321-1030 1410 N. West Shore Blvd, Suite 700, Tampa, FL 33607 Visit us online at: www.telovations.com -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Victor Breen Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:26 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: [VoiceOps] Carriers that allow CNAM dips via SIP Subscribe? Hello VoIP Gurus! I'm hoping one of you might be able to help narrow my search. Has anyone had any experience, either good or bad, with any particular carriers in getting CNAM queries working using SIP Subscribes? I have seen a few offer it via HTTP, but that won't work for my platform without developing a custom proxy to translate the SIP to HTTP and back again. Any leads would be greatly appreciated, either on or off list. Thanks! -- Victor Breen, VoIP Systems Administrator Impulse Advanced Communications (805) 456-5800 _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops

Hi Victor, Some folks are using ENUM on their SBCs to dip to CNAM providers. ENUM is a little more light-weight than a SIP request, and, when done at the edge, touches fewer nodes. I believe Targusinfo is one CNAM provider that supports ENUM. -Reid -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Victor Breen Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 1:27 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Carriers that allow CNAM dips via SIP Subscribe? That's great to know about BW, actually. I think might be ok in that respect since I want to implement this on my SBCs in front which (I hope) will not present any other ballooning call leg scenarios. Thanks to all of you for the suggestions! -- Victor Breen, VoIP Systems Administrator Impulse Advanced Communications (805) 456-5800 ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hiers" <David_Hiers at adp.com> To: "Doug Knight" <DKnight at telovations.com>, "Victor Breen" <victor at impulse.net>, voiceops at voiceops.org Sent: Wednesday, February 2, 2011 6:27:43 AM Subject: RE: [VoiceOps] Carriers that allow CNAM dips via SIP Subscribe? TNS works great with BW. One scratchy point... BW runs their SUBSCRIBEs on the access side, so a single call that hits a 10 user hunt group will generate 10 dips. David Hiers CCIE (R/S, V), CISSP ADP Dealer Services 2525 SW 1st Ave. Suite 300W Portland, OR 97201 o: 503-205-4467 f: 503-402-3277 -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Doug Knight Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 5:09 AM To: Victor Breen; voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Carriers that allow CNAM dips via SIP Subscribe? We've centralized our dips via sip to TNS over the last year with our Broadsoft platform. It has worked quite well and simplified things in operations. Doug Knight|?Vice President Telovations?| (813) 321-1030 1410 N. West Shore Blvd, Suite?700,?Tampa, FL 33607 Visit us online at: www.telovations.com -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Victor Breen Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:26 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: [VoiceOps] Carriers that allow CNAM dips via SIP Subscribe? Hello VoIP Gurus! I'm hoping one of you might be able to help narrow my search. Has anyone had any experience, either good or bad, with any particular carriers in getting CNAM queries working using SIP Subscribes? I have seen a few offer it via HTTP, but that won't work for my platform without developing a custom proxy to translate the SIP to HTTP and back again. Any leads would be greatly appreciated, either on or off list. Thanks! -- Victor Breen, VoIP Systems Administrator Impulse Advanced Communications (805) 456-5800 _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops

TargusInfo fully support SIP Subscribe/Notify, try: John Coleman <johncoleman at targusinfo.com>
<> Nathan Stratton CTO, BlinkMind, Inc. nathan at robotics.net nathan at blinkmind.com http://www.robotics.net http://www.blinkmind.com
On Tue, 1 Feb 2011, Victor Breen wrote:
Hello VoIP Gurus!
I'm hoping one of you might be able to help narrow my search. Has anyone had any experience, either good or bad, with any particular carriers in getting CNAM queries working using SIP Subscribes? I have seen a few offer it via HTTP, but that won't work for my platform without developing a custom proxy to translate the SIP to HTTP and back again.
Any leads would be greatly appreciated, either on or off list.
Thanks!
-- Victor Breen, VoIP Systems Administrator Impulse Advanced Communications (805) 456-5800
_______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
participants (8)
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dane@corp.sonic.net
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David_Hiers@adp.com
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DKnight@telovations.com
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Michael.Lunsford@cbeyond.net
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nathan@robotics.net
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PChilds@internode.com.au
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rstidolph@acmepacket.com
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victor@impulse.net