Hi, Does anyone know if area code 886 was allocated to Canada and if yes where in Canada? We were just told by an international vendor that it is a new area code in Canada yet I can't find anything on it. TIA. Dovid
My go to site for Canadian Numbering http://www.cnac.ca/co_codes/co_code_status.htm On Fri., Jul. 24, 2020, 5:57 a.m. Dovid Bender, <dovid at telecurve.com> wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone know if area code 886 was allocated to Canada and if yes where in Canada? We were just told by an international vendor that it is a new area code in Canada yet I can't find anything on it.
TIA.
Dovid
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In article <CAM3TTh1u6C0+uwDSWrHfYvh-y=aAzOdF_9-eqevHo93w-DWJrw at mail.gmail.com> you write:
Does anyone know if area code 886 was allocated to Canada and if yes where in Canada? We were just told by an international vendor that it is a new area code in Canada yet I can't find anything on it.
You can check the definitive NANPA list at https://nationalnanpa.com/ It says that 886 is reserved for toll-free expansion. Your vendor is confused. A long time ago, codes 880, 881, and 882 were used for paid international calls to North American 800, 888, and 877 numbers, so they might be telling you a garbled version of that. That hack went away 15 years ago and those codes are now also reserved for toll-free expansion. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl at taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
I think you misread that 886 is reserved for TF. It was released from TF reservation in 2003 and us currently unassigned so could pop up anywhere as a new code. -bjs
On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:22 AM, John Levine <johnl at taugh.com> wrote:
?In article <CAM3TTh1u6C0+uwDSWrHfYvh-y=aAzOdF_9-eqevHo93w-DWJrw at mail.gmail.com> you write:
Does anyone know if area code 886 was allocated to Canada and if yes where in Canada? We were just told by an international vendor that it is a new area code in Canada yet I can't find anything on it.
You can check the definitive NANPA list at https://nationalnanpa.com/
It says that 886 is reserved for toll-free expansion. Your vendor is confused.
A long time ago, codes 880, 881, and 882 were used for paid international calls to North American 800, 888, and 877 numbers, so they might be telling you a garbled version of that. That hack went away 15 years ago and those codes are now also reserved for toll-free expansion.
-- Regards, John Levine, johnl at taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
Reference for 886 being available: https://www.nationalnanpa.com/pdf/PL_329.pdf
On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:28 AM, Brandon Svec <bsvec at teamonesolutions.com> wrote:
?I think you misread that 886 is reserved for TF. It was released from TF reservation in 2003 and us currently unassigned so could pop up anywhere as a new code.
-bjs
On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:22 AM, John Levine <johnl at taugh.com> wrote:
?In article <CAM3TTh1u6C0+uwDSWrHfYvh-y=aAzOdF_9-eqevHo93w-DWJrw at mail.gmail.com> you write:
Does anyone know if area code 886 was allocated to Canada and if yes where in Canada? We were just told by an international vendor that it is a new area code in Canada yet I can't find anything on it.
You can check the definitive NANPA list at https://nationalnanpa.com/
It says that 886 is reserved for toll-free expansion. Your vendor is confused.
A long time ago, codes 880, 881, and 882 were used for paid international calls to North American 800, 888, and 877 numbers, so they might be telling you a garbled version of that. That hack went away 15 years ago and those codes are now also reserved for toll-free expansion.
-- Regards, John Levine, johnl at taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
I think you misread that 886 is reserved for TF. It was released from TF reservation in 2003 and us currently unassigned so could pop up anywhere as a new code.
If that is the case, you should tell NANPA. I just downloaded their NPA database, dated today. It says: NPA_ID,type_of_code,ASSIGNABLE,EXPLANATION,RESERVED,ASSIGNED,ASSIGNMENT_DT,USE,LOCATION,COUNTRY,IN_SERVICE,IN_SERVICE_DT,STATUS,PLANNING_LETTERS,"NOTES",OVERLAY,OVERLAY_COMPLEX,PARENT_NPA_ID,SERVICE,TIME_ZONE,AREA_SERVED,MAP,IN_JEOPARDY,RELIEF_PLANNING_IN_PROGRESS,HOME_NPA_LOCAL_CALLS,HOME_NPA_TOLL_CALLS,FOREIGN_NPA_LOCAL_CALLS,FOREIGN_NPA_TOLL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_LOCAL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_TOLL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_FOREIGN_LOCAL_CALLS,"DIALING_PLAN_NOTES" 886,General Purpose Code,No,Set aside for toll free,No,No,,N,,,N,,,,"",No,,,Toll-Free,,,,No,No,,,,,,,,"" R's, John
On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:22 AM, John Levine <johnl at taugh.com> wrote:
?In article <CAM3TTh1u6C0+uwDSWrHfYvh-y=aAzOdF_9-eqevHo93w-DWJrw at mail.gmail.com> you write:
Does anyone know if area code 886 was allocated to Canada and if yes where in Canada? We were just told by an international vendor that it is a new area code in Canada yet I can't find anything on it.
You can check the definitive NANPA list at https://nationalnanpa.com/
It says that 886 is reserved for toll-free expansion. Your vendor is confused.
A long time ago, codes 880, 881, and 882 were used for paid international calls to North American 800, 888, and 877 numbers, so they might be telling you a garbled version of that. That hack went away 15 years ago and those codes are now also reserved for toll-free expansion.
That's a bit hard to parse but it appears to also say, "set aside for toll free" = NO NANPA's own announcement confirms 886 (and 889) was eliminated from toll free pool in 2001 and released back to unused inventory in 2003- https://www.nationalnanpa.com/pdf/PL_329.pdf On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:08 AM John R Levine <johnl at taugh.com> wrote:
I think you misread that 886 is reserved for TF. It was released from TF reservation in 2003 and us currently unassigned so could pop up anywhere as a new code.
If that is the case, you should tell NANPA. I just downloaded their NPA database, dated today. It says:
NPA_ID,type_of_code,ASSIGNABLE,EXPLANATION,RESERVED,ASSIGNED,ASSIGNMENT_DT,USE,LOCATION,COUNTRY,IN_SERVICE,IN_SERVICE_DT,STATUS,PLANNING_LETTERS,"NOTES",OVERLAY,OVERLAY_COMPLEX,PARENT_NPA_ID,SERVICE,TIME_ZONE,AREA_SERVED,MAP,IN_JEOPARDY,RELIEF_PLANNING_IN_PROGRESS,HOME_NPA_LOCAL_CALLS,HOME_NPA_TOLL_CALLS,FOREIGN_NPA_LOCAL_CALLS,FOREIGN_NPA_TOLL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_LOCAL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_TOLL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_FOREIGN_LOCAL_CALLS,"DIALING_PLAN_NOTES" 886,General Purpose Code,No,Set aside for toll free,No,No,,N,,,N,,,,"",No,,,Toll-Free,,,,No,No,,,,,,,,""
R's, John
On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:22 AM, John Levine <johnl at taugh.com> wrote:
?In article <CAM3TTh1u6C0+uwDSWrHfYvh-y= aAzOdF_9-eqevHo93w-DWJrw at mail.gmail.com> you write:
Does anyone know if area code 886 was allocated to Canada and if yes where in Canada? We were just told by an international vendor that it is a new area code in Canada yet I can't find anything on it.
You can check the definitive NANPA list at https://nationalnanpa.com/
It says that 886 is reserved for toll-free expansion. Your vendor is confused.
A long time ago, codes 880, 881, and 882 were used for paid international calls to North American 800, 888, and 877 numbers, so they might be telling you a garbled version of that. That hack went away 15 years ago and those codes are now also reserved for toll-free expansion.
That's a bit hard to parse but it appears to also say, "set aside for toll free" = NO
Sigh. If you match up the columns, it says ASSIGNABLE No, Explanation Set aside for toll free, RESERVED No, Assigned No.
NANPA's own announcement confirms 886 (and 889) was eliminated from toll free pool in 2001 and released back to unused inventory in 2003- https://www.nationalnanpa.com/pdf/PL_329.pdf
I think you should read that letter. It wasn't in the toll-free pool.
NPA_ID,type_of_code,ASSIGNABLE,EXPLANATION,RESERVED,ASSIGNED,ASSIGNMENT_DT,USE,LOCATION,COUNTRY,IN_SERVICE,IN_SERVICE_DT,STATUS,PLANNING_LETTERS,"NOTES",OVERLAY,OVERLAY_COMPLEX,PARENT_NPA_ID,SERVICE,TIME_ZONE,AREA_SERVED,MAP,IN_JEOPARDY,RELIEF_PLANNING_IN_PROGRESS,HOME_NPA_LOCAL_CALLS,HOME_NPA_TOLL_CALLS,FOREIGN_NPA_LOCAL_CALLS,FOREIGN_NPA_TOLL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_LOCAL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_TOLL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_FOREIGN_LOCAL_CALLS,"DIALING_PLAN_NOTES" 886,General Purpose Code,No,Set aside for toll free,No,No,,N,,,N,,,,"",No,,,Toll-Free,,,,No,No,,,,,,,,""
Regards, John Levine, johnl at taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
Semi related: Depending on the International vendor, I see the codes 108, 109, 1129, 1139, 1171, 1172, 1173, 1178 being claimed as either valid codes in Canada or the US. I haven't found much information on them but I believe they are special in Canada dial codes for certain services and would likely never complete if a call originated outside of the country. Watch out for those in ratesheets if your customers dial the 011 prefix for an International call, it may confuse your LCR/rating engine. ~Jared On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:09 AM John R Levine <johnl at taugh.com> wrote:
I think you misread that 886 is reserved for TF. It was released from TF reservation in 2003 and us currently unassigned so could pop up anywhere as a new code.
If that is the case, you should tell NANPA. I just downloaded their NPA database, dated today. It says:
NPA_ID,type_of_code,ASSIGNABLE,EXPLANATION,RESERVED,ASSIGNED,ASSIGNMENT_DT,USE,LOCATION,COUNTRY,IN_SERVICE,IN_SERVICE_DT,STATUS,PLANNING_LETTERS,"NOTES",OVERLAY,OVERLAY_COMPLEX,PARENT_NPA_ID,SERVICE,TIME_ZONE,AREA_SERVED,MAP,IN_JEOPARDY,RELIEF_PLANNING_IN_PROGRESS,HOME_NPA_LOCAL_CALLS,HOME_NPA_TOLL_CALLS,FOREIGN_NPA_LOCAL_CALLS,FOREIGN_NPA_TOLL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_LOCAL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_TOLL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_FOREIGN_LOCAL_CALLS,"DIALING_PLAN_NOTES" 886,General Purpose Code,No,Set aside for toll free,No,No,,N,,,N,,,,"",No,,,Toll-Free,,,,No,No,,,,,,,,""
R's, John
On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:22 AM, John Levine <johnl at taugh.com> wrote:
?In article <CAM3TTh1u6C0+uwDSWrHfYvh-y= aAzOdF_9-eqevHo93w-DWJrw at mail.gmail.com> you write:
Does anyone know if area code 886 was allocated to Canada and if yes where in Canada? We were just told by an international vendor that it is a new area code in Canada yet I can't find anything on it.
You can check the definitive NANPA list at https://nationalnanpa.com/
It says that 886 is reserved for toll-free expansion. Your vendor is confused.
A long time ago, codes 880, 881, and 882 were used for paid international calls to North American 800, 888, and 877 numbers, so they might be telling you a garbled version of that. That hack went away 15 years ago and those codes are now also reserved for toll-free expansion._______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
11xx codes are a pulse dial substitute for the matching *xx code. so 1167 sets the privacy flag just like *67 does. They're not dialable outside of a class 5 end user. (12xx replaces the #) ________________________________ From: VoiceOps <voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org> on behalf of Jared Geiger <jared at compuwizz.net> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 1:51 PM To: VoiceOps Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Area code 886 Semi related: Depending on the International vendor, I see the codes 108, 109, 1129, 1139, 1171, 1172, 1173, 1178 being claimed as either valid codes in Canada or the US. I haven't found much information on them but I believe they are special in Canada dial codes for certain services and would likely never complete if a call originated outside of the country. Watch out for those in ratesheets if your customers dial the 011 prefix for an International call, it may confuse your LCR/rating engine. ~Jared On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:09 AM John R Levine <johnl at taugh.com<mailto:johnl at taugh.com>> wrote:
I think you misread that 886 is reserved for TF. It was released from TF reservation in 2003 and us currently unassigned so could pop up anywhere as a new code.
If that is the case, you should tell NANPA. I just downloaded their NPA database, dated today. It says: NPA_ID,type_of_code,ASSIGNABLE,EXPLANATION,RESERVED,ASSIGNED,ASSIGNMENT_DT,USE,LOCATION,COUNTRY,IN_SERVICE,IN_SERVICE_DT,STATUS,PLANNING_LETTERS,"NOTES",OVERLAY,OVERLAY_COMPLEX,PARENT_NPA_ID,SERVICE,TIME_ZONE,AREA_SERVED,MAP,IN_JEOPARDY,RELIEF_PLANNING_IN_PROGRESS,HOME_NPA_LOCAL_CALLS,HOME_NPA_TOLL_CALLS,FOREIGN_NPA_LOCAL_CALLS,FOREIGN_NPA_TOLL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_LOCAL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_TOLL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_FOREIGN_LOCAL_CALLS,"DIALING_PLAN_NOTES" 886,General Purpose Code,No,Set aside for toll free,No,No,,N,,,N,,,,"",No,,,Toll-Free,,,,No,No,,,,,,,,"" R's, John
On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:22 AM, John Levine <johnl at taugh.com<mailto:johnl at taugh.com>> wrote:
?In article <CAM3TTh1u6C0+uwDSWrHfYvh-y=aAzOdF_9-eqevHo93w-DWJrw at mail.gmail.com<mailto:aAzOdF_9-eqevHo93w-DWJrw at mail.gmail.com>> you write:
Does anyone know if area code 886 was allocated to Canada and if yes where in Canada? We were just told by an international vendor that it is a new area code in Canada yet I can't find anything on it.
You can check the definitive NANPA list at https://nationalnanpa.com/
It says that 886 is reserved for toll-free expansion. Your vendor is confused.
A long time ago, codes 880, 881, and 882 were used for paid international calls to North American 800, 888, and 877 numbers, so they might be telling you a garbled version of that. That hack went away 15 years ago and those codes are now also reserved for toll-free expansion._______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org<mailto:VoiceOps at voiceops.org> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
Thanks for the info. I'm sure why the codes started popping up in at least 5 Tier 1 International rate decks about 6 months ago. At least now I know why they exist. On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 11:02 AM Paul Timmins <ptimmins at clearrate.com> wrote:
11xx codes are a pulse dial substitute for the matching *xx code. so 1167 sets the privacy flag just like *67 does. They're not dialable outside of a class 5 end user.
(12xx replaces the #)
------------------------------ *From:* VoiceOps <voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org> on behalf of Jared Geiger <jared at compuwizz.net> *Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2020 1:51 PM *To:* VoiceOps *Subject:* Re: [VoiceOps] Area code 886
Semi related:
Depending on the International vendor, I see the codes 108, 109, 1129, 1139, 1171, 1172, 1173, 1178 being claimed as either valid codes in Canada or the US. I haven't found much information on them but I believe they are special in Canada dial codes for certain services and would likely never complete if a call originated outside of the country.
Watch out for those in ratesheets if your customers dial the 011 prefix for an International call, it may confuse your LCR/rating engine.
~Jared
On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:09 AM John R Levine <johnl at taugh.com> wrote:
I think you misread that 886 is reserved for TF. It was released from TF reservation in 2003 and us currently unassigned so could pop up anywhere as a new code.
If that is the case, you should tell NANPA. I just downloaded their NPA database, dated today. It says:
NPA_ID,type_of_code,ASSIGNABLE,EXPLANATION,RESERVED,ASSIGNED,ASSIGNMENT_DT,USE,LOCATION,COUNTRY,IN_SERVICE,IN_SERVICE_DT,STATUS,PLANNING_LETTERS,"NOTES",OVERLAY,OVERLAY_COMPLEX,PARENT_NPA_ID,SERVICE,TIME_ZONE,AREA_SERVED,MAP,IN_JEOPARDY,RELIEF_PLANNING_IN_PROGRESS,HOME_NPA_LOCAL_CALLS,HOME_NPA_TOLL_CALLS,FOREIGN_NPA_LOCAL_CALLS,FOREIGN_NPA_TOLL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_LOCAL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_TOLL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_FOREIGN_LOCAL_CALLS,"DIALING_PLAN_NOTES" 886,General Purpose Code,No,Set aside for toll free,No,No,,N,,,N,,,,"",No,,,Toll-Free,,,,No,No,,,,,,,,""
R's, John
On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:22 AM, John Levine <johnl at taugh.com> wrote:
?In article <CAM3TTh1u6C0+uwDSWrHfYvh-y= aAzOdF_9-eqevHo93w-DWJrw at mail.gmail.com> you write:
Does anyone know if area code 886 was allocated to Canada and if yes where in Canada? We were just told by an international vendor that it is a new area code in Canada yet I can't find anything on it.
You can check the definitive NANPA list at https://nationalnanpa.com/
It says that 886 is reserved for toll-free expansion. Your vendor is confused.
A long time ago, codes 880, 881, and 882 were used for paid international calls to North American 800, 888, and 877 numbers, so they might be telling you a garbled version of that. That hack went away 15 years ago and those codes are now also reserved for toll-free expansion._______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
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