eseifer at comcast.net wrote:

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Hello,

Can anyone recommend a small market Integrated Access Device (IAD) that is capable of being a SIP Trunk endpoint with Broadsoft? I have a few points of criteria that we are looking at: 1. Supports up to 8 FXS ports. 2. Compatible with keyed-system PBX's. 3. Prefer a manufacturer with a strong, responsive support team. 4. Price: around $500.

Ethernet only: Cisco/Linksys SPA8000 (around $200) T1/ethernet: Adtran TA908 (around $700) -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - jay at impulse.net Impulse Internet Service - http://www.impulse.net/ Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV

Thanks for the great info, everyone! - Eric eseifer at comcast.net wrote:

Hello,

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Can anyone recommend a small market Integrated Access Device (IAD) that is capable of being a SIP Trunk endpoint with Broadsoft? I have a few points of criteria that we are looking at: 1. Supports up to 8 FXS ports. 2. Compatible with keyed-system PBX's. 3. Prefer a manufacturer with a strong, responsive support team. 4. Price: around $500.

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Thanks,

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Eric

Of note, the Adtran gear isn't IPv6 capable (I don't mind the SIP stack doesn't support it, but it should at least do basic routing!), in fact with the firewall on it breaks ipv6 tunnels passing through it without a knob to shut that "feature" off. :-/ But if you turn that firewall on, even without rules, you can use their really awesome onboard voip diagnostics to show graphs of delay, mos, etc, and look at historical records of the last 100 calls, etc. Really neat stuff. I've been hasseling my adtran people every chance I get about the IPv6 stuff. I get a lot of concerning head in the sand responses. If you get a bunch, make sure to bug your rep about it. -Paul Scott Berkman wrote:

I like Cisco and Adtran (TA908/TA908E), but another good option (and perhaps a better answer for the ?small market? requirement) is the Edgemarc 4508E:

ftp://ftp.edgewaternetworks.com/pub/docs/datasheets/EM_4508_Datasheet.pdf

I know the support team well and they are small and quite responsive.

AdTran is catching up in some ways but the SIP ALG in the Edgemarc may be the best out there. This is also the only option where you can run tcpdumps right on the device for troubleshooting. The packet debug features in the Adtran and Cisco just don?t match the versatility of tcpdump. The new Cisco capture mechanisms in 12.4T are aiming to compete but they are very knew and likely somewhat buggy.

This is also probably the least expensive of the listed options.

-Scott

*From:* voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] *On Behalf Of *eseifer at comcast.net *Sent:* Monday, September 14, 2009 6:40 PM *To:* VoiceOps *Subject:* [VoiceOps] CPE IAD recommendations

Hello,

Can anyone recommend a small market Integrated Access Device (IAD) that is capable of being a SIP Trunk endpoint with Broadsoft? I have a few points of criteria that we are looking at: 1. Supports up to 8 FXS ports. 2. Compatible with keyed-system PBX's. 3. Prefer a manufacturer with a strong, responsive support team. 4. Price: around $500.

Thanks,

Eric

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good :) On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Chris Boyd <cboyd at gizmopartners.com> wrote:

On Sep 14, 2009, at 8:41 PM, Paul Timmins wrote:

I've been hasseling my adtran people every chance I get about the IPv6

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stuff. I get a lot of concerning head in the sand responses. If you get a bunch, make sure to bug your rep about it.

Rumour Control has IP6 coming Real Soon Now on at least the NetVanta line.

--Chris

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the patton smartnode series are my favorites. ?fantastic debugging via cli, on par with and often surpassing ios (i was able to get my first few units fully working basically a few hours after unpack thanks to the debug). ?cli itself has a few oddities but i find it pleasant to use overall. ?support team is small but very helpful and responsive.

Looks like an interesting product line, but I didn't see any mix of digital and analog. What I really need is one PRI, and a couple of FXS ports, and at least one FXO port.

adtran i think unabashedly strives to make their cli as much like ios as possible. ?if you're comfortable with cisco gear, then you should have no trouble configuring adtran. ?there is a web gui also that compares very favorably to the competition's (helpful when you have low-skill support staff logging into on the devices).

The 908e looks promising. I really like that you can play with the GUI / CLI BEFORE you buy one. Just have to register on the Adtran website and go to http://www.adtran.com/vlab I wish more vendors had that. Does anyone know if you can connect one of the T1 ports on a 908e to a PSTN PRI? The documentation is not clear and mainly talks about customer facing PBX connections and data termination. I have a call into pre-sales, but nothing back yet...

the cli on the audiocodes gear is kind of amazing, it seems like a throwaway project from someone's college operating systems course.

LOL, Ummm... Actually I don't remember any of my classmates having THAT bad of an interface when I was taking Operating Systems... -Jonathan

Did you look at the Edgemarc's? You sound like you need a 4508T4: ftp://ftp.edgewaternetworks.com/pub/docs/datasheets/EM_4508T4_4508T4W_Datash eet.pdf I really recommend that you give them a shot and include this product in your evaluation. The ONLY TA900 that has FXS and multiple FXO ports is the TA924E-8FXO (unless something has changed), which has 16 FXS and 8 FXO plus the one fixed FXO, and is the most expensive of the TA-900 series. I believe all the TA9XXE's do have the one fixed FXO however if that is enough. -Scott -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Thurman Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 1:43 PM To: VoiceOps Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] CPE IAD recommendations

the patton smartnode series are my favorites. ?fantastic debugging via cli, on par with and often surpassing ios (i was able to get my first few units fully working basically a few hours after unpack thanks to the debug). ?cli itself has a few oddities but i find it pleasant to use overall. ?support team is small but very helpful and responsive.

Looks like an interesting product line, but I didn't see any mix of digital and analog. What I really need is one PRI, and a couple of FXS ports, and at least one FXO port.

adtran i think unabashedly strives to make their cli as much like ios as possible. ?if you're comfortable with cisco gear, then you should have no trouble configuring adtran. ?there is a web gui also that compares very favorably to the competition's (helpful when you have low-skill support staff logging into on the devices).

The 908e looks promising. I really like that you can play with the GUI / CLI BEFORE you buy one. Just have to register on the Adtran website and go to http://www.adtran.com/vlab I wish more vendors had that. Does anyone know if you can connect one of the T1 ports on a 908e to a PSTN PRI? The documentation is not clear and mainly talks about customer facing PBX connections and data termination. I have a call into pre-sales, but nothing back yet...

the cli on the audiocodes gear is kind of amazing, it seems like a throwaway project from someone's college operating systems course.

LOL, Ummm... Actually I don't remember any of my classmates having THAT bad of an interface when I was taking Operating Systems... -Jonathan _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Scott Berkman <scott at sberkman.net> wrote:

Did you look at the Edgemarc's? ?You sound like you need a 4508T4: ftp://ftp.edgewaternetworks.com/pub/docs/datasheets/EM_4508T4_4508T4W_Datash eet.pdf

I really recommend that you give them a shot and include this product in your evaluation.

I must have missed that... Too many data sheets floating around in my head. The device looks very promising. If it had iperf installed it would almost be perfect! -Jonathan

It?s also a linux box, so if you can figure out crosstool you can build any binary from source to run on there. It?s an ARM based processor if I remember correctly. But yes as Johnathan mentioned the syslog has the MOS scoring for each call leg so there is lots that can be done from that data. They also have a great EMS that can collect, report, and send email notifications based on MOS thresholds. -Scott From: anorexicpoodle [mailto:anorexicpoodle at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 3:08 PM To: Jonathan Thurman Cc: Scott Berkman; VoiceOps at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] CPE IAD recommendations Edgemarcs spit out per-call MOS scoring and RTP stats on VoIP calls, so while not quite iperf, it should get a little closer to the meat of what you care about. They are really fantastic devices, and we make heavy use of them. On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 11:26 -0700, Jonathan Thurman wrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Scott Berkman <scott at sberkman.net> wrote:

Did you look at the Edgemarc's? You sound like you need a 4508T4: ftp://ftp.edgewaternetworks.com/pub/docs/datasheets/EM_4508T4_4508T4W_Datash eet.pdf

I really recommend that you give them a shot and include this product in your evaluation.

I must have missed that... Too many data sheets floating around in my head. The device looks very promising. If it had iperf installed it would almost be perfect! -Jonathan _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops