Our test equipment vendor (Exfo) has asked us about these capabilities, "milliwatt tone, quiet termination, or silent switchman." I don't know that I've seen the ability to configure those anywhere. How would I go about setting that up? I'm assuming that requires that my switch (Metaswitch) and endpoints (Zhone, Grandstream, Calix, Occam, and Innomedia) support them as well. I'm sure I can get platform-specific details from each of the vendors, but I'd like gain a bit of knowledge on that whole process before delving into vendor details. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com
On 3/15/22 06:51, Mike Hammett wrote:
Our test equipment vendor (Exfo) has asked us about these capabilities, "milliwatt tone, quiet termination, or silent switchman." I don't know that I've seen the ability to configure those anywhere.
How would I go about setting that up? I'm assuming that requires that my switch (Metaswitch) and endpoints (Zhone, Grandstream, Calix, Occam, and Innomedia) support them as well. I'm sure I can get platform-specific details from each of the vendors, but I'd like gain a bit of knowledge on that whole process before delving into vendor details.
The test numbers are a function of the switch. The endpoints need no configuration or support. To the endpoints, the test numbers are simply a dialable phone number like any other. If Metaswitch doesn't have configurable options for milliwatt and silent termination, an Asterisk or similar box can easily do so. This is very lightweight and can run on a Raspberry Pi if needed. The milliwatt is used to test for line loss and level and silent termination for hybrid balance. Essentially these are dialable numbers that in the first case answer with a 1004 Hz tone sent at a level of one milliwatt and in the second answer with silence matching the line impedance with return loss as high as possible. -- Jay Hennigan - jay at west.net Network Engineering - CCIE #7880 503 897-8550 - WB6RDV
In the Metaswitch explorer interface.. drill down in the CFS until you get to "Test Call Services". I see test line 100 and 102 which is what I think you want. Matt -----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps <voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org> On Behalf Of Jay Hennigan Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 2:35 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Test Numbers On 3/15/22 06:51, Mike Hammett wrote:
Our test equipment vendor (Exfo) has asked us about these capabilities, "milliwatt tone, quiet termination, or silent switchman." I don't know that I've seen the ability to configure those anywhere.
How would I go about setting that up? I'm assuming that requires that my switch (Metaswitch) and endpoints (Zhone, Grandstream, Calix, Occam, and Innomedia) support them as well. I'm sure I can get platform-specific details from each of the vendors, but I'd like gain a bit of knowledge on that whole process before delving into vendor details.
The test numbers are a function of the switch. The endpoints need no configuration or support. To the endpoints, the test numbers are simply a dialable phone number like any other. If Metaswitch doesn't have configurable options for milliwatt and silent termination, an Asterisk or similar box can easily do so. This is very lightweight and can run on a Raspberry Pi if needed. The milliwatt is used to test for line loss and level and silent termination for hybrid balance. Essentially these are dialable numbers that in the first case answer with a 1004 Hz tone sent at a level of one milliwatt and in the second answer with silence matching the line impedance with return loss as high as possible. -- Jay Hennigan - jay at west.net Network Engineering - CCIE #7880 503 897-8550 - WB6RDV _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
" The endpoints need no configuration or support." Okay, I guess that was my chief concern. If it's just handled within the RTP stream, then I'll move forward with Metaswitch. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Hennigan" <jay at west.net> To: voiceops at voiceops.org Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 1:35:16 PM Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Test Numbers On 3/15/22 06:51, Mike Hammett wrote:
Our test equipment vendor (Exfo) has asked us about these capabilities, "milliwatt tone, quiet termination, or silent switchman." I don't know that I've seen the ability to configure those anywhere.
How would I go about setting that up? I'm assuming that requires that my switch (Metaswitch) and endpoints (Zhone, Grandstream, Calix, Occam, and Innomedia) support them as well. I'm sure I can get platform-specific details from each of the vendors, but I'd like gain a bit of knowledge on that whole process before delving into vendor details.
The test numbers are a function of the switch. The endpoints need no configuration or support. To the endpoints, the test numbers are simply a dialable phone number like any other. If Metaswitch doesn't have configurable options for milliwatt and silent termination, an Asterisk or similar box can easily do so. This is very lightweight and can run on a Raspberry Pi if needed. The milliwatt is used to test for line loss and level and silent termination for hybrid balance. Essentially these are dialable numbers that in the first case answer with a 1004 Hz tone sent at a level of one milliwatt and in the second answer with silence matching the line impedance with return loss as high as possible. -- Jay Hennigan - jay at west.net Network Engineering - CCIE #7880 503 897-8550 - WB6RDV _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
A tangent off of this. What numbers are you using to report back to the caller the caller ID of the line they're on? I just recently found out we're using 311 for what Metaswitch calls "ANI Test Service". Clearly (https://nationalnanpa.com/number_resource_info/n11_codes.html) that's not appropriate. Some of our local Frontier techs are using 800-444-4444 from MCI. It seems like Wikipedia acknowledges that this is a mess. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_number_announcement_circuit ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net> To: voiceops at voiceops.org Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 8:51:49 AM Subject: [VoiceOps] Test Numbers Our test equipment vendor (Exfo) has asked us about these capabilities, "milliwatt tone, quiet termination, or silent switchman." I don't know that I've seen the ability to configure those anywhere. How would I go about setting that up? I'm assuming that requires that my switch (Metaswitch) and endpoints (Zhone, Grandstream, Calix, Occam, and Innomedia) support them as well. I'm sure I can get platform-specific details from each of the vendors, but I'd like gain a bit of knowledge on that whole process before delving into vendor details. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
800-437-7950 has been what we?ve used for as long as I can recall. From: VoiceOps <voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2022 1:40 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Test Numbers A tangent off of this. What numbers are you using to report back to the caller the caller ID of the line they're on? I just recently found out we're using 311 for what Metaswitch calls "ANI Test Service". Clearly (https://nationalnanpa.com/number_resource_info/n11_codes.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nationalnanpa.com_number-5Fresource-5Finfo_n11-5Fcodes.html&d=DwQFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=O9zkNrKbQF1fgs1KTBRWpbNPvZEkJNea930OX6UPkBE&m=GJg85wLded_b07myjU9KwtpNqginrsfp3fm0RnkbDZI&s=DOQ3Ceqf553twOgQ9Vyo4BcE7lxdBxQHUs2ajYZ9fqk&e=>) that's not appropriate. Some of our local Frontier techs are using 800-444-4444 from MCI. It seems like Wikipedia acknowledges that this is a mess. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_number_announcement_circuit<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Automatic-5Fnumber-5Fannouncement-5Fcircuit&d=DwQFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=O9zkNrKbQF1fgs1KTBRWpbNPvZEkJNea930OX6UPkBE&m=GJg85wLded_b07myjU9KwtpNqginrsfp3fm0RnkbDZI&s=zBHc03fRL-rDKAMFfRfpA3-_lnZdgunRwLd0Oi37890&e=> ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.ics-2Dil.com&d=DwQFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=O9zkNrKbQF1fgs1KTBRWpbNPvZEkJNea930OX6UPkBE&m=GJg85wLded_b07myjU9KwtpNqginrsfp3fm0RnkbDZI&s=WTfSb0wC18pW2GQQxdTTxkifsqBht0caAHE5_yUm7po&e=> Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.midwest-2Dix.com&d=DwQFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=O9zkNrKbQF1fgs1KTBRWpbNPvZEkJNea930OX6UPkBE&m=GJg85wLded_b07myjU9KwtpNqginrsfp3fm0RnkbDZI&s=2p_Tp259G6FpbqQdxtJj1Mc5AGJAZ4Gc_lOmgdCpdzA&e=> ________________________________ From: "Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net<mailto:voiceops at ics-il.net>> To: voiceops at voiceops.org<mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 8:51:49 AM Subject: [VoiceOps] Test Numbers Our test equipment vendor (Exfo) has asked us about these capabilities, "milliwatt tone, quiet termination, or silent switchman." I don't know that I've seen the ability to configure those anywhere. How would I go about setting that up? I'm assuming that requires that my switch (Metaswitch) and endpoints (Zhone, Grandstream, Calix, Occam, and Innomedia) support them as well. I'm sure I can get platform-specific details from each of the vendors, but I'd like gain a bit of knowledge on that whole process before delving into vendor details. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.ics-2Dil.com&d=DwQFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=O9zkNrKbQF1fgs1KTBRWpbNPvZEkJNea930OX6UPkBE&m=GJg85wLded_b07myjU9KwtpNqginrsfp3fm0RnkbDZI&s=WTfSb0wC18pW2GQQxdTTxkifsqBht0caAHE5_yUm7po&e=> Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.midwest-2Dix.com&d=DwQFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=O9zkNrKbQF1fgs1KTBRWpbNPvZEkJNea930OX6UPkBE&m=GJg85wLded_b07myjU9KwtpNqginrsfp3fm0RnkbDZI&s=2p_Tp259G6FpbqQdxtJj1Mc5AGJAZ4Gc_lOmgdCpdzA&e=> _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org<mailto:VoiceOps at voiceops.org> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__puck.nether.net_mailman_listinfo_voiceops&d=DwQFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=O9zkNrKbQF1fgs1KTBRWpbNPvZEkJNea930OX6UPkBE&m=GJg85wLded_b07myjU9KwtpNqginrsfp3fm0RnkbDZI&s=wyAXQK9-AFUBHs9y6U2wto4DM_h_xPNOGQeedxlg2xY&e=>
I stopped using the caller ID test numbers for the most part once I got a cell phone ;) *Brandon Svec* On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 10:49 AM Mike Hammett <voiceops at ics-il.net> wrote:
A tangent off of this.
What numbers are you using to report back to the caller the caller ID of the line they're on? I just recently found out we're using 311 for what Metaswitch calls "ANI Test Service". Clearly ( https://nationalnanpa.com/number_resource_info/n11_codes.html) that's not appropriate.
Some of our local Frontier techs are using 800-444-4444 from MCI.
It seems like Wikipedia acknowledges that this is a mess. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_number_announcement_circuit
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com
------------------------------ *From: *"Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net> *To: *voiceops at voiceops.org *Sent: *Tuesday, March 15, 2022 8:51:49 AM *Subject: *[VoiceOps] Test Numbers
Our test equipment vendor (Exfo) has asked us about these capabilities, "milliwatt tone, quiet termination, or silent switchman." I don't know that I've seen the ability to configure those anywhere.
How would I go about setting that up? I'm assuming that requires that my switch (Metaswitch) and endpoints (Zhone, Grandstream, Calix, Occam, and Innomedia) support them as well. I'm sure I can get platform-specific details from each of the vendors, but I'd like gain a bit of knowledge on that whole process before delving into vendor details.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com
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