Hey guys, https://www.valcom.com/pdf/v1030c_v1036c.pdf We're trying to find the best way to interface 3 old Valcom speakers V-1030c to an IP paging system. I have a Snom PA1 but that won't work as we initially thought because speakers need 4 wires on a 24v power system. So 2 wires are for 24v power, and the other 2 are for audio. The snom only has a positive and negative output that feeds passive speakers, not active speakers like these. What is the best way to utilize these 3 speakers or should we just replace the speakers? We're trying to keep budget to a minimum for them so we would prefer to utilize the same speakers but what's the best way to power them and feed them audio using the existing 2-pair RJ11 cable they use? Thank you -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
I think that Algo Solutions paging adapter would get this done for you. http://www.algosolutions.com/products/speakers/8301.html Michael Graves mgraves at mstvp.com<mailto:mgraves at mstvp.com> http://www.mgraves.org o(713) 861-4005 c(713) 201-1262 sip:mgraves at mjg.onsip.com skype mjgraves From: VoiceOps <voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org> On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 5:40 PM To: VoiceOps <voiceops at voiceops.org> Subject: [VoiceOps] Old PA System setup Hey guys, https://www.valcom.com/pdf/v1030c_v1036c.pdf We're trying to find the best way to interface 3 old Valcom speakers V-1030c to an IP paging system. I have a Snom PA1 but that won't work as we initially thought because speakers need 4 wires on a 24v power system. So 2 wires are for 24v power, and the other 2 are for audio. The snom only has a positive and negative output that feeds passive speakers, not active speakers like these. What is the best way to utilize these 3 speakers or should we just replace the speakers? We're trying to keep budget to a minimum for them so we would prefer to utilize the same speakers but what's the best way to power them and feed them audio using the existing 2-pair RJ11 cable they use? Thank you -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com<http://www.mnwifi.com/> 507-634-WiFi [http://www.snoitulosten.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/facebook-small.jpg]<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
Take an old IP phone and clip the speaker wire ? connect the speaker wire to your audio pairs? you can daisy chain to all of them Put a screw or tape the hookflash down Set your page key up to intercom call that IP phone Cheapest way I know. Regards, Jake Clappton Intelecom, Inc / voipdesk 925.701.3008 - Direct 925.846.8025 - eFax www.voipdesk.com<http://www.voipdesk.com/> From: VoiceOps <voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org> On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 3:40 PM To: VoiceOps <voiceops at voiceops.org> Subject: [VoiceOps] Old PA System setup Hey guys, https://www.valcom.com/pdf/v1030c_v1036c.pdf We're trying to find the best way to interface 3 old Valcom speakers V-1030c to an IP paging system. I have a Snom PA1 but that won't work as we initially thought because speakers need 4 wires on a 24v power system. So 2 wires are for 24v power, and the other 2 are for audio. The snom only has a positive and negative output that feeds passive speakers, not active speakers like these. What is the best way to utilize these 3 speakers or should we just replace the speakers? We're trying to keep budget to a minimum for them so we would prefer to utilize the same speakers but what's the best way to power them and feed them audio using the existing 2-pair RJ11 cable they use? Thank you -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com<http://www.mnwifi.com/> 507-634-WiFi [http://www.snoitulosten.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/facebook-small.jpg]<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
Valcom has great support. I would call them and ask them. Most likely you'll need a separate power source. On Thu, Apr 18, 2019, 5:40 PM Darin Steffl <darin.steffl at mnwifi.com> wrote:
Hey guys,
https://www.valcom.com/pdf/v1030c_v1036c.pdf
We're trying to find the best way to interface 3 old Valcom speakers V-1030c to an IP paging system.
I have a Snom PA1 but that won't work as we initially thought because speakers need 4 wires on a 24v power system. So 2 wires are for 24v power, and the other 2 are for audio. The snom only has a positive and negative output that feeds passive speakers, not active speakers like these.
What is the best way to utilize these 3 speakers or should we just replace the speakers? We're trying to keep budget to a minimum for them so we would prefer to utilize the same speakers but what's the best way to power them and feed them audio using the existing 2-pair RJ11 cable they use?
Thank you
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You can still use the Snom PA1 I would think. Just reduce the PA1's output levels to line level for input into the Valcoms and use a regular 24VDC power supply to send power. The wires can be terminated directly into each: https://www.amazon.com/Russound-ADP-1-2-Speaker-level-Line-level-Adapter/dp/... <https://www.amazon.com/Russound-ADP-1-2-Speaker-level-Line-level-Adapter/dp/...> https://www.amazon.com/NEWSTYLE-Universal-Regulated-Switching-Computer/dp/B0... <https://www.amazon.com/NEWSTYLE-Universal-Regulated-Switching-Computer/dp/B0...> Pete
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From: Darin Steffl <darin.steffl at mnwifi.com> Subject: [VoiceOps] Old PA System setup Date: 19 April 2019 at 10:39:39 AM NZST To: VoiceOps <voiceops at voiceops.org>
Hey guys,
https://www.valcom.com/pdf/v1030c_v1036c.pdf <https://www.valcom.com/pdf/v1030c_v1036c.pdf>
We're trying to find the best way to interface 3 old Valcom speakers V-1030c to an IP paging system.
I have a Snom PA1 but that won't work as we initially thought because speakers need 4 wires on a 24v power system. So 2 wires are for 24v power, and the other 2 are for audio. The snom only has a positive and negative output that feeds passive speakers, not active speakers like these.
What is the best way to utilize these 3 speakers or should we just replace the speakers? We're trying to keep budget to a minimum for them so we would prefer to utilize the same speakers but what's the best way to power them and feed them audio using the existing 2-pair RJ11 cable they use?
Thank you
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You can use the Snom PA1 with those valcom speakers. You just need to use a valcom power supply. If the speakers where existing, there is most likely a 24 power supply there now. If not you can order one form valcom. They measure their power in VPUs, each speaker has a VPU rating. Make sure you get one large enough to handle all the speakers. [https://img.newoldstamp.com/f/000/012/u555.png?5852f657df370]<http://trueipsolutions.com/> Brian Hales Chief Tech. Officer | True IP Solutions LLC p: (910) 249-4255 m: (910) 305-0676 w: http://trueipsolutions.com/ See what's new with us on LinkedIn: [cid:image002.jpg at 01D257A4.94DEAD00]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/true-ip-solutions-llc> From: VoiceOps <voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org> on behalf of Darin Steffl <darin.steffl at mnwifi.com> Date: Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 6:40 PM To: VoiceOps <voiceops at voiceops.org> Subject: [VoiceOps] Old PA System setup Hey guys, https://www.valcom.com/pdf/v1030c_v1036c.pdf We're trying to find the best way to interface 3 old Valcom speakers V-1030c to an IP paging system. I have a Snom PA1 but that won't work as we initially thought because speakers need 4 wires on a 24v power system. So 2 wires are for 24v power, and the other 2 are for audio. The snom only has a positive and negative output that feeds passive speakers, not active speakers like these. What is the best way to utilize these 3 speakers or should we just replace the speakers? We're trying to keep budget to a minimum for them so we would prefer to utilize the same speakers but what's the best way to power them and feed them audio using the existing 2-pair RJ11 cable they use? Thank you -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com<http://www.mnwifi.com/> 507-634-WiFi [http://www.snoitulosten.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/facebook-small.jpg]<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
It was being fed from an old Nortel pbx using rj11. One pair for power and one for audio. So really if I can just feed it 24v, the snom should still work if I put in a line level adapter? Can't I just turn the output way down on the speaker output to achieve the same thing? On Fri, Apr 19, 2019, 7:38 AM Brian Hales <brianhales at trueipsolutions.com> wrote:
You can use the Snom PA1 with those valcom speakers. You just need to use a valcom power supply. If the speakers where existing, there is most likely a 24 power supply there now. If not you can order one form valcom. They measure their power in VPUs, each speaker has a VPU rating. Make sure you get one large enough to handle all the speakers.
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*From: *VoiceOps <voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org> on behalf of Darin Steffl <darin.steffl at mnwifi.com> *Date: *Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 6:40 PM *To: *VoiceOps <voiceops at voiceops.org> *Subject: *[VoiceOps] Old PA System setup
Hey guys,
https://www.valcom.com/pdf/v1030c_v1036c.pdf
We're trying to find the best way to interface 3 old Valcom speakers V-1030c to an IP paging system.
I have a Snom PA1 but that won't work as we initially thought because speakers need 4 wires on a 24v power system. So 2 wires are for 24v power, and the other 2 are for audio. The snom only has a positive and negative output that feeds passive speakers, not active speakers like these.
What is the best way to utilize these 3 speakers or should we just replace the speakers? We're trying to keep budget to a minimum for them so we would prefer to utilize the same speakers but what's the best way to power them and feed them audio using the existing 2-pair RJ11 cable they use?
Thank you
--
Darin Steffl
Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com
507-634-WiFi
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I am not very familiar with a lot of the old Nortels but the ones I have taken over (MICS and CICS) all have a page port but do supply power. There has always be an external power supply. Either way you just need a power supply and should be good. [https://img.newoldstamp.com/f/000/012/u555.png?5852f657df370]<http://trueipsolutions.com/> Brian Hales Chief Tech. Officer | True IP Solutions LLC p: (910) 249-4255 m: (910) 305-0676 w: http://trueipsolutions.com/ See what's new with us on LinkedIn: [cid:image002.jpg at 01D257A4.94DEAD00]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/true-ip-solutions-llc> From: Darin Steffl <darin.steffl at mnwifi.com> Date: Friday, April 19, 2019 at 8:48 AM To: Brian Hales <brianhales at trueipsolutions.com> Cc: VoiceOps <voiceops at voiceops.org> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Old PA System setup It was being fed from an old Nortel pbx using rj11. One pair for power and one for audio. So really if I can just feed it 24v, the snom should still work if I put in a line level adapter? Can't I just turn the output way down on the speaker output to achieve the same thing? On Fri, Apr 19, 2019, 7:38 AM Brian Hales <brianhales at trueipsolutions.com<mailto:brianhales at trueipsolutions.com>> wrote: You can use the Snom PA1 with those valcom speakers. You just need to use a valcom power supply. If the speakers where existing, there is most likely a 24 power supply there now. If not you can order one form valcom. They measure their power in VPUs, each speaker has a VPU rating. Make sure you get one large enough to handle all the speakers. [https://img.newoldstamp.com/f/000/012/u555.png?5852f657df370]<http://trueipsolutions.com/> Brian Hales Chief Tech. Officer | True IP Solutions LLC p: (910) 249-4255 m: (910) 305-0676 w: http://trueipsolutions.com/ See what's new with us on LinkedIn: [cid:image002.jpg at 01D257A4.94DEAD00]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/true-ip-solutions-llc> From: VoiceOps <voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org<mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org>> on behalf of Darin Steffl <darin.steffl at mnwifi.com<mailto:darin.steffl at mnwifi.com>> Date: Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 6:40 PM To: VoiceOps <voiceops at voiceops.org<mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org>> Subject: [VoiceOps] Old PA System setup Hey guys, https://www.valcom.com/pdf/v1030c_v1036c.pdf We're trying to find the best way to interface 3 old Valcom speakers V-1030c to an IP paging system. I have a Snom PA1 but that won't work as we initially thought because speakers need 4 wires on a 24v power system. So 2 wires are for 24v power, and the other 2 are for audio. The snom only has a positive and negative output that feeds passive speakers, not active speakers like these. What is the best way to utilize these 3 speakers or should we just replace the speakers? We're trying to keep budget to a minimum for them so we would prefer to utilize the same speakers but what's the best way to power them and feed them audio using the existing 2-pair RJ11 cable they use? Thank you -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com<http://www.mnwifi.com/> 507-634-WiFi [http://www.snoitulosten.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/facebook-small.jpg]<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
VP-1124D Looks like a 1 amp, 24v will be enough according to their calculator. So instead of shelling out $70 for one, I think a 24v poe with 1 amp output should also work for us if we just grab the right pins on the ethernet cable. Anyone see why using a poe wouldn't work? We have lots of Ubiquiti 24v laying around. On Fri, Apr 19, 2019, 7:55 AM Brian Hales <brianhales at trueipsolutions.com> wrote:
I am not very familiar with a lot of the old Nortels but the ones I have taken over (MICS and CICS) all have a page port but do supply power. There has always be an external power supply. Either way you just need a power supply and should be good.
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p: (910) 249-4255 m: (910) 305-0676
w: http://trueipsolutions.com/
See what's new with us on LinkedIn:
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*From: *Darin Steffl <darin.steffl at mnwifi.com> *Date: *Friday, April 19, 2019 at 8:48 AM *To: *Brian Hales <brianhales at trueipsolutions.com> *Cc: *VoiceOps <voiceops at voiceops.org> *Subject: *Re: [VoiceOps] Old PA System setup
It was being fed from an old Nortel pbx using rj11. One pair for power and one for audio.
So really if I can just feed it 24v, the snom should still work if I put in a line level adapter? Can't I just turn the output way down on the speaker output to achieve the same thing?
On Fri, Apr 19, 2019, 7:38 AM Brian Hales <brianhales at trueipsolutions.com> wrote:
You can use the Snom PA1 with those valcom speakers. You just need to use a valcom power supply. If the speakers where existing, there is most likely a 24 power supply there now. If not you can order one form valcom. They measure their power in VPUs, each speaker has a VPU rating. Make sure you get one large enough to handle all the speakers.
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*Brian Hales*
*Chief Tech. Officer* | *True IP Solutions LLC*
p: (910) 249-4255 m: (910) 305-0676
w: http://trueipsolutions.com/
See what's new with us on LinkedIn:
[image: cid:image002.jpg at 01D257A4.94DEAD00] <https://www.linkedin.com/company/true-ip-solutions-llc>
*From: *VoiceOps <voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org> on behalf of Darin Steffl <darin.steffl at mnwifi.com> *Date: *Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 6:40 PM *To: *VoiceOps <voiceops at voiceops.org> *Subject: *[VoiceOps] Old PA System setup
Hey guys,
https://www.valcom.com/pdf/v1030c_v1036c.pdf
We're trying to find the best way to interface 3 old Valcom speakers V-1030c to an IP paging system.
I have a Snom PA1 but that won't work as we initially thought because speakers need 4 wires on a 24v power system. So 2 wires are for 24v power, and the other 2 are for audio. The snom only has a positive and negative output that feeds passive speakers, not active speakers like these.
What is the best way to utilize these 3 speakers or should we just replace the speakers? We're trying to keep budget to a minimum for them so we would prefer to utilize the same speakers but what's the best way to power them and feed them audio using the existing 2-pair RJ11 cable they use?
Thank you
--
Darin Steffl
Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com
507-634-WiFi
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Can't see why not! Just be sure to turn it down before plugging it in and make sure it doesn't get turned up later.
On 20/04/2019, at 12:47 AM, Darin Steffl <darin.steffl at mnwifi.com> wrote:
the snom should still work if I put in a line level adapter? Can't I just turn the output way down on the speaker output to achieve the same thing?
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