CABS\Intercarrier Compensation Billing
My client is asking me to setup CABS billing for them. I only really see this being relevant to inter-carrier compensation. Where can I find more resources about how that works? Is inter-carrier compensation is something we'd be billing the tandem operator or each company sending us calls? Note: I'm primarily a data\SIP guy, but I've been thrown into telco hell. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com
Intercarrier compensation of the CABS variety is where a LEC bills the IXC for inter-LATA calls terminated to them by that IXC. On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 02:19:57PM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
My client is asking me to setup CABS billing for them. I only really see this being relevant to inter-carrier compensation. Where can I find more resources about how that works?
Is inter-carrier compensation is something we'd be billing the tandem operator or each company sending us calls?
Note: I'm primarily a data\SIP guy, but I've been thrown into telco hell.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com
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Right. I got the 30k foot view (apparently short of who receives the bill). Looking to get a bit deeper. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Balashov" <abalashov at evaristesys.com> To: "Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net> Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018 2:21:43 PM Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] CABS\Intercarrier Compensation Billing Intercarrier compensation of the CABS variety is where a LEC bills the IXC for inter-LATA calls terminated to them by that IXC. On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 02:19:57PM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
My client is asking me to setup CABS billing for them. I only really see this being relevant to inter-carrier compensation. Where can I find more resources about how that works?
Is inter-carrier compensation is something we'd be billing the tandem operator or each company sending us calls?
Note: I'm primarily a data\SIP guy, but I've been thrown into telco hell.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com
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For all around info+vendor selection/management, etc I highly recommend starting with CSS: http://csscabs.com/ -- Tim On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 2:25 PM, Mike Hammett <voiceops at ics-il.net> wrote:
Right. I got the 30k foot view (apparently short of who receives the bill). Looking to get a bit deeper.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
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------------------------------ *From: *"Alex Balashov" <abalashov at evaristesys.com> *To: *"Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net> *Cc: *voiceops at voiceops.org *Sent: *Thursday, July 5, 2018 2:21:43 PM *Subject: *Re: [VoiceOps] CABS\Intercarrier Compensation Billing
Intercarrier compensation of the CABS variety is where a LEC bills the IXC for inter-LATA calls terminated to them by that IXC.
On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 02:19:57PM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
My client is asking me to setup CABS billing for them. I only really see
this being relevant to inter-carrier compensation. Where can I find more resources about how that works?
Is inter-carrier compensation is something we'd be billing the tandem
operator or each company sending us calls?
Note: I'm primarily a data\SIP guy, but I've been thrown into telco
hell.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com
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Intercarrier CABS billing has to do with the charges that carriers bill each other for use of their network. It used to be that all facilities based carriers could charge for any PSTN traffic terminating on their switch or any toll free traffic originating from their switch. The rules were changed in 2017 so now facilities-based carriers cannot charge for end office switching - only tandem switching and dip charges. Whether to bill for it or not has always been based on the amount of traffic the facilities-based carrier has. Most carriers who have a significant amount of traffic to bill for use a CABS billing service and it doesn't really pay to do that unless you have 10,000 MOU (minutes of use) per month. There are also a few things to consider when determining whether you want to bill. Most wireless carriers try to establish bill and keep agreements so if a lot of your traffic is traversing their networks, you can bet they are going to want to negotiated that away. You also have to remember that if you're billing a company that isn't billing you, it gives them reason to start billing you so you have to evaluate all those components when deciding whether or not to go that route. The top 3 companies that do CABS billing are: Kadence http://www.gokadence.com/ MAC https://maccnet.com/services/billing-solutions/ UDP http://www.udp.com/ Mary Lou Carey BackUP Telecom Consulting Office: 615-771-7868 (temporary) Cell: 615-796-1111 On 2018-07-05 02:19 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
My client is asking me to setup CABS billing for them. I only really see this being relevant to inter-carrier compensation. Where can I find more resources about how that works?
Is inter-carrier compensation is something we'd be billing the tandem operator or each company sending us calls?
Note: I'm primarily a data\SIP guy, but I've been thrown into telco hell.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
If (MOU >= 10000 AND entitybillsyou=True) {goto Checkinto-CABS-billing-providers} Else {exit} ? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "BackUP Telecom Consulting" <marylou at backuptelecom.com> To: "Mike Hammett" <voiceops at ics-il.net> Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018 2:47:51 PM Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] CABS\Intercarrier Compensation Billing Intercarrier CABS billing has to do with the charges that carriers bill each other for use of their network. It used to be that all facilities based carriers could charge for any PSTN traffic terminating on their switch or any toll free traffic originating from their switch. The rules were changed in 2017 so now facilities-based carriers cannot charge for end office switching - only tandem switching and dip charges. Whether to bill for it or not has always been based on the amount of traffic the facilities-based carrier has. Most carriers who have a significant amount of traffic to bill for use a CABS billing service and it doesn't really pay to do that unless you have 10,000 MOU (minutes of use) per month. There are also a few things to consider when determining whether you want to bill. Most wireless carriers try to establish bill and keep agreements so if a lot of your traffic is traversing their networks, you can bet they are going to want to negotiated that away. You also have to remember that if you're billing a company that isn't billing you, it gives them reason to start billing you so you have to evaluate all those components when deciding whether or not to go that route. The top 3 companies that do CABS billing are: Kadence http://www.gokadence.com/ MAC https://maccnet.com/services/billing-solutions/ UDP http://www.udp.com/ Mary Lou Carey BackUP Telecom Consulting Office: 615-771-7868 (temporary) Cell: 615-796-1111 On 2018-07-05 02:19 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
My client is asking me to setup CABS billing for them. I only really see this being relevant to inter-carrier compensation. Where can I find more resources about how that works?
Is inter-carrier compensation is something we'd be billing the tandem operator or each company sending us calls?
Note: I'm primarily a data\SIP guy, but I've been thrown into telco hell.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
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