Anyone using OpenSIPS/OpenSER/Kamailio to interface with L3

OpenSIPS is not an SBC as the members of their mailing list will readily and loudly attest. OpenSIPS is a SIP Proxy. OpenSIPS + rtp-proxy can provide many of the functions of an SBC. Personally I wouldn't allow anything on your private VoIP LAN that I didn't have direct control over. I'm not against using OpenSIPS or Asterisk but I wouldn't let my customers manage it and have direct access to my switch. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Dawson" <robert.dawson at mindshift.com> To: VoiceOps at voiceops.org Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2010 11:39:42 AM Subject: [VoiceOps] Anyone using OpenSIPS/OpenSER/Kamailio to interface with L3
I have a customer that I would like to setup on their own SBC to avoid adding the overhead/licensing costs to our Acmes.
Robert Dawson
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-- Matthew S. Crocker President Crocker Communications, Inc. PO BOX 710 Greenfield, MA 01302-0710 http://www.crocker.com P: 413-746-2760

Agreed on the SBC point. That said, I have personally set up SER (before the fork a number of years ago) to work with Level 3's Viper platform and carried a great deal of production traffic across it. The important thing to remember is that SER acts how you tell it to act, so getting it to work correctly for what L3 expects is highly dependent on your configuration and routing logic. -Scott -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Matthew S. Crocker Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:34 PM To: Robert Dawson Cc: VoiceOps at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Anyone using OpenSIPS/OpenSER/Kamailio to interface with L3 OpenSIPS is not an SBC as the members of their mailing list will readily and loudly attest. OpenSIPS is a SIP Proxy. OpenSIPS + rtp-proxy can provide many of the functions of an SBC. Personally I wouldn't allow anything on your private VoIP LAN that I didn't have direct control over. I'm not against using OpenSIPS or Asterisk but I wouldn't let my customers manage it and have direct access to my switch. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Dawson" <robert.dawson at mindshift.com> To: VoiceOps at voiceops.org Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2010 11:39:42 AM Subject: [VoiceOps] Anyone using OpenSIPS/OpenSER/Kamailio to interface with L3
I have a customer that I would like to setup on their own SBC to avoid adding the overhead/licensing costs to our Acmes.
Robert Dawson
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Out of curiosity: does it provide any kind of protection against DoS/DDoS? On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Scott Berkman <scott at sberkman.net> wrote:
Agreed on the SBC point.
That said, I have personally set up SER (before the fork a number of years ago) to work with Level 3's Viper platform and carried a great deal of production traffic across it. ?The important thing to remember is that SER acts how you tell it to act, so getting it to work correctly for what L3 expects is highly dependent on your configuration and routing logic.
? ? ? ?-Scott
-----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Matthew S. Crocker Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:34 PM To: Robert Dawson Cc: VoiceOps at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Anyone using OpenSIPS/OpenSER/Kamailio to interface with L3
OpenSIPS is not an SBC as the members of their mailing list will readily and loudly attest.
OpenSIPS is a SIP Proxy. ?OpenSIPS + rtp-proxy can provide many of the functions of an SBC. ?Personally I wouldn't allow anything on your private VoIP LAN that I didn't have direct control over. ? I'm not against using OpenSIPS or Asterisk but I wouldn't let my customers manage it and have direct access to my switch.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Dawson" <robert.dawson at mindshift.com> To: VoiceOps at voiceops.org Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2010 11:39:42 AM Subject: [VoiceOps] Anyone using OpenSIPS/OpenSER/Kamailio to interface with ? ?L3
I have a customer that I would like to setup on their own SBC to avoid adding the overhead/licensing costs to our Acmes.
Robert Dawson
_______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
-- Matthew S. Crocker President Crocker Communications, Inc. PO BOX 710 Greenfield, MA 01302-0710 http://www.crocker.com P: 413-746-2760
_______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
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-- Victor Pascual ?vila

'Out of the box' (tarball) OpenSIPS doesn't do anything really, the default config is pretty basic. It has a lot of add-on modules that can do just about everything. You can limit the number of SIP messages/second from a peer. You can also build some spiffy iptables rules in the underlying Linux machine. With enough tweaking you can get OpenSIPS to make your coffee in the morning as it responds to a SIP INVITE from your alarm clock. -Matt ----- Original Message -----
From: "Victor Pascual Avila" <victor.pascual.avila at gmail.com> To: "Scott Berkman" <scott at sberkman.net> Cc: "Matthew S. Crocker" <matthew at corp.crocker.com>, "Robert Dawson" <robert.dawson at mindshift.com>, VoiceOps at voiceops.org Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2010 2:34:50 PM Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Anyone using OpenSIPS/OpenSER/Kamailio to interface with L3
Out of curiosity: does it provide any kind of protection against DoS/DDoS?
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Scott Berkman <scott at sberkman.net> wrote:
Agreed on the SBC point.
That said, I have personally set up SER (before the fork a number of years ago) to work with Level 3's Viper platform and carried a great deal of production traffic across it. ?The important thing to remember is that SER acts how you tell it to act, so getting it to work correctly for what L3 expects is highly dependent on your configuration and routing logic.
? ? ? ?-Scott
-----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Matthew S. Crocker Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:34 PM To: Robert Dawson Cc: VoiceOps at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Anyone using OpenSIPS/OpenSER/Kamailio to interface with L3
OpenSIPS is not an SBC as the members of their mailing list will readily and loudly attest.
OpenSIPS is a SIP Proxy. ?OpenSIPS + rtp-proxy can provide many of the functions of an SBC. ?Personally I wouldn't allow anything on your private VoIP LAN that I didn't have direct control over. ? I'm not against using OpenSIPS or Asterisk but I wouldn't let my customers manage it and have direct access to my switch.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Dawson" <robert.dawson at mindshift.com> To: VoiceOps at voiceops.org Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2010 11:39:42 AM Subject: [VoiceOps] Anyone using OpenSIPS/OpenSER/Kamailio to interface with ? ?L3
I have a customer that I would like to setup on their own SBC to avoid adding the overhead/licensing costs to our Acmes.
Robert Dawson
_______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
-- Matthew S. Crocker President Crocker Communications, Inc. PO BOX 710 Greenfield, MA 01302-0710 http://www.crocker.com P: 413-746-2760
_______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
_______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
-- Victor Pascual ?vila
-- Matthew S. Crocker President Crocker Communications, Inc. PO BOX 710 Greenfield, MA 01302-0710 http://www.crocker.com P: 413-746-2760

Yes, but that still doesn't mean it should be confused for an SBC. -- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC 1170 Peachtree Street 12th Floor, Suite 1200 Atlanta, GA 30309 Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Fax: +1-404-961-1892 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/

Seconded on the "SER is not an SBC" point. There are a lot of subtle services a full SBC provides that SER just cannot. Also if you are fairly new to SER, L3 has pretty sensible requirements for SIP peering so the good news is whatever you do to get it working with L3 the way you like will most likely carry into other peering arrangements. On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 13:57 -0400, Scott Berkman wrote:
Agreed on the SBC point.
That said, I have personally set up SER (before the fork a number of years ago) to work with Level 3's Viper platform and carried a great deal of production traffic across it. The important thing to remember is that SER acts how you tell it to act, so getting it to work correctly for what L3 expects is highly dependent on your configuration and routing logic.
-Scott
-----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Matthew S. Crocker Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:34 PM To: Robert Dawson Cc: VoiceOps at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Anyone using OpenSIPS/OpenSER/Kamailio to interface with L3
OpenSIPS is not an SBC as the members of their mailing list will readily and loudly attest.
OpenSIPS is a SIP Proxy. OpenSIPS + rtp-proxy can provide many of the functions of an SBC. Personally I wouldn't allow anything on your private VoIP LAN that I didn't have direct control over. I'm not against using OpenSIPS or Asterisk but I wouldn't let my customers manage it and have direct access to my switch.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Dawson" <robert.dawson at mindshift.com> To: VoiceOps at voiceops.org Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2010 11:39:42 AM Subject: [VoiceOps] Anyone using OpenSIPS/OpenSER/Kamailio to interface with L3
I have a customer that I would like to setup on their own SBC to avoid adding the overhead/licensing costs to our Acmes.
Robert Dawson
_______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
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