Depending on the equipment, that?s technically possible. But I would have no idea if their equipment can do that. =) Frank From: Dawson, Robert [mailto:robert.dawson at mindshift.com] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 5:22 PM To: frnkblk at iname.com; voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: Passing non-DID/non-BTN CID info on Verizon No, we would be looking to send the POTS line number as CID over the PRI. _____ From: Frank Bulk - iName.com <frnkblk at iname.com> To: Dawson, Robert; voiceops at voiceops.org <voiceops at voiceops.org> Sent: Mon Jul 26 18:19:30 2010 Subject: RE: Passing non-DID/non-BTN CID info on Verizon To clarify: are you looking to spoof CID on outbound calls from a POTS line? Frank From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Dawson, Robert Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 4:57 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: [VoiceOps] Passing non-DID/non-BTN CID info on Verizon Has anyone been successful in getting Verizon to allow them to spoof CID? We have a customer with around 30 sites in NY ? the smaller sites all have POTS lines and failover to a larger regional site with PRI. We are interested in being able to pass the correct CID for the smaller sites when this happens but Verizon is saying it just can?t be done. Anyone doing it currently? Thanks, Rob

All circuits Verizon. They are indicating that unless the DID is provisioned on the PRI they can't do it. -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Alvarez Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 6:42 PM Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Passing non-DID/non-BTN CID info on Verizon Dawson, Robert wrote:

Has anyone been successful in getting Verizon to allow them to spoof CID? We have a customer with around 30 sites in NY - the smaller sites all have POTS lines and failover to a larger regional site with PRI. We are interested in being able to pass the correct CID for the smaller sites when this happens but Verizon is saying it just can't be done. Anyone doing it currently?

Sorry, but this was unclear...is the PRI over which you want to spoof also from Verizon? Or another carrier? Or are you sending the calls out via VoIP? -- Carlos Alvarez TelEvolve 602-889-3003 _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops

I can tell you from first hand experience that as of right now it cannot be done. It is also true if you are using one of their SIP solutions. I was also told that they are working on an upgrade to allow this to happen, and will roll it out on phases. Primary reason is that their billing is based on the CID you pass along and also for fraud reasons. However each case is different and others may not run into this. Joel P. "Always stand on principle, even if you stand alone" "Adversity introduces us to ourselves" "There are two kinds of men who walk the earth... Men of Action, and then all the others" "si vis pacem, para bellum" ? -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Alvarez Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 7:06 PM Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Passing non-DID/non-BTN CID info on Verizon I was told that by Time Warner also, but in reality we can send anything we want on their PRIs (even our CNAM is preserved inside their network). So hopefully someone on the list has actually tried it with Verizon and can clarify. Dawson, Robert wrote:

All circuits Verizon. They are indicating that unless the DID is provisioned on the PRI they can't do it.

-----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Alvarez Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 6:42 PM Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Passing non-DID/non-BTN CID info on Verizon

Dawson, Robert wrote:

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Has anyone been successful in getting Verizon to allow them to spoof CID? We have a customer with around 30 sites in NY - the smaller sites all have POTS lines and failover to a larger regional site with PRI. We are interested in being able to pass the correct CID for the smaller sites when this happens but Verizon is saying it just can't be done. Anyone doing it currently?

Sorry, but this was unclear...is the PRI over which you want to spoof also from Verizon? Or another carrier? Or are you sending the calls out via VoIP?

-- Carlos Alvarez TelEvolve 602-889-3003 _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops