
I've got a customer that is experiencing issues with DTMF recognition when utilizing Webex Conference services. I have adjusted DTMF length and level to the point that it is causing issues with some other services but they are still reporting failures. I can intermittently replicate the issue as well. Anyone experience anything similar? Thoughts? Robert Dawson - MCSE, MCTS Microsoft Exchange 2007 NOC 3/VoIP Engineer mindSHIFT Technologies, Inc. 3975 Fair Ridge Drive, Suite 200 South - Fairfax, VA 22033 Tel: 571-432-4010 Cell: 571-234-2621 www.mindSHIFT.com<http://www.mindshift.com/> [cid:image001.jpg at 01CAC4EA.912B3600] Ranked #1 in managed IT services by MSPmentor(r) Boston - New York City - Philadelphia - Washington DC We make IT work for your business(r) P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail

Are they in a large room using speakerphone? On Mar 16, 2010, at 8:29 AM, "Dawson, Robert" <robert.dawson at mindshift.com
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I?ve got a customer that is experiencing issues with DTMF recognitio n when utilizing Webex Conference services. I have adjusted DTMF len gth and level to the point that it is causing issues with some other services but they are still reporting failures. I can intermittentl y replicate the issue as well. Anyone experience anything similar? T houghts?
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NOC 3/VoIP Engineer
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Individual users on desk sets. From: Lee Riemer [mailto:lriemer at bestline.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 10:32 AM To: Dawson, Robert Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Broadworks/Polycom/Webex Conferences and DTMF issues Are they in a large room using speakerphone? On Mar 16, 2010, at 8:29 AM, "Dawson, Robert" <robert.dawson at mindshift.com<mailto:robert.dawson at mindshift.com>> wrote: I?ve got a customer that is experiencing issues with DTMF recognition when utilizing Webex Conference services. I have adjusted DTMF length and level to the point that it is causing issues with some other services but they are still reporting failures. I can intermittently replicate the issue as well. Anyone experience anything similar? Thoughts? Robert Dawson - MCSE, MCTS Microsoft Exchange 2007 NOC 3/VoIP Engineer mindSHIFT Technologies, Inc. 3975 Fair Ridge Drive, Suite 200 South - Fairfax, VA 22033 Tel: 571-432-4010 Cell: 571-234-2621 www.mindSHIFT.com<http://www.mindshift.com/> <image001.jpg> Ranked #1 in managed IT services by MSPmentor? Boston - New York City - Philadelphia - Washington DC We make IT work for your business? P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org<mailto:VoiceOps at voiceops.org> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops

What codec/dtmf-method/carrier are you using? On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Dawson, Robert <robert.dawson at mindshift.com
wrote:
I?ve got a customer that is experiencing issues with DTMF recognition when utilizing Webex Conference services. I have adjusted DTMF length and level to the point that it is causing issues with some other services but they are still reporting failures. I can intermittently replicate the issue as well. Anyone experience anything similar? Thoughts?
Robert Dawson - MCSE, MCTS Microsoft Exchange 2007
NOC 3/VoIP Engineer
mindSHIFT Technologies, Inc. 3975 Fair Ridge Drive, Suite 200 South - Fairfax, VA 22033
Tel: 571-432-4010 Cell: 571-234-2621
www.mindSHIFT.com <http://www.mindshift.com/>
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G.711/RFC2833/L3 From: David Hiers [mailto:hiersd at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:15 AM To: Dawson, Robert Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Broadworks/Polycom/Webex Conferences and DTMF issues What codec/dtmf-method/carrier are you using? On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Dawson, Robert <robert.dawson at mindshift.com<mailto:robert.dawson at mindshift.com>> wrote: I've got a customer that is experiencing issues with DTMF recognition when utilizing Webex Conference services. I have adjusted DTMF length and level to the point that it is causing issues with some other services but they are still reporting failures. I can intermittently replicate the issue as well. Anyone experience anything similar? Thoughts? Robert Dawson - MCSE, MCTS Microsoft Exchange 2007 NOC 3/VoIP Engineer mindSHIFT Technologies, Inc. 3975 Fair Ridge Drive, Suite 200 South - Fairfax, VA 22033 Tel: 571-432-4010 Cell: 571-234-2621 www.mindSHIFT.com<http://www.mindshift.com/> [cid:image001.jpg at 01CAC4FE.976052D0] Ranked #1 in managed IT services by MSPmentor(r) Boston - New York City - Philadelphia - Washington DC We make IT work for your business(r) P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org<mailto:VoiceOps at voiceops.org> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops

On Mar 16, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Dawson, Robert wrote:
G.711/RFC2833/L3
Have you engaged L3 yet on this issue? If not get them on the phone, armed with your own captures showing appropriate RFC2833 event duration and if you yell loud enough they'll setup the instrumentation on their network to trap it. My guess, L3 isn't terming the call themselves and at some point the converting RFC2833 to inband to hand off to the eventual term carrier, and that carrier is accepting the call via a Sonus which is mucking it up. and yes been there done that. -- Robin D. Rodriguez Ifbyphone, Inc.

Thanks, appreciate the insight. From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Robin Rodriguez Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 1:06 PM To: VoiceOps Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Broadworks/Polycom/Webex Conferences and DTMF issues On Mar 16, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Dawson, Robert wrote: G.711/RFC2833/L3 Have you engaged L3 yet on this issue? If not get them on the phone, armed with your own captures showing appropriate RFC2833 event duration and if you yell loud enough they'll setup the instrumentation on their network to trap it. My guess, L3 isn't terming the call themselves and at some point the converting RFC2833 to inband to hand off to the eventual term carrier, and that carrier is accepting the call via a Sonus which is mucking it up. and yes been there done that. -- Robin D. Rodriguez Ifbyphone, Inc.

Hi, I am looking to bring our current Global Crossing Conferencing solution on-net, and have begun to search for hardware/software solutions. I am looking at Radvision, Cisco, and now Alcatel-Lucent. I want to use SIP trunking between to the new platform. Has anyone in the group deployed anything other than Broadsoft's 3rd party Conference Server and are there any strong recommendations? Thanks, David Sarvai DSCI Corporation

I have managed some Meetingplace deployments, there are goods and bads to it. Anything specific you need to know? Overall I'd say MeetingPlace has much better reporting, partitioning (users and groups defined in a way other than the BroadWorks AS), and general configurability than AL/BroadSoft (you know the BS solution is (or was?) AL's rebranded right?). The BroadSoft is just really nice in the way it integrates for users of the system, if that is relevant for you. Biggest issue is probably licensing costs. The newer versions can integrate or provide a local instance of WebEx too, which is pretty cool. I've also spent a lot of time trying to turn Asterisk into a conferencing product, but it seems to have timing issues keeping the channels in sync unless you have TDM-based (zap, not ztdummy) timing, or at least it did a few years ago. You can build a pretty decent feature set if you have the time though. -Scott -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of David Sarvai Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 5:10 PM To: VoiceOps Subject: [VoiceOps] Conferencing Solutions Hi, I am looking to bring our current Global Crossing Conferencing solution on-net, and have begun to search for hardware/software solutions. I am looking at Radvision, Cisco, and now Alcatel-Lucent. I want to use SIP trunking between to the new platform. Has anyone in the group deployed anything other than Broadsoft's 3rd party Conference Server and are there any strong recommendations? Thanks, David Sarvai DSCI Corporation _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops

On 16 Mar 2010 08:29, Dawson, Robert wrote:
I?ve got a customer that is experiencing issues with DTMF recognition when utilizing Webex Conference services. I have adjusted DTMF length and level to the point that it is causing issues with some other services but they are still reporting failures. I can intermittently replicate the issue as well. Anyone experience anything similar? Thoughts? ... G.711/RFC2833/L3
I've found that increasing tone.dtmf.level on the Polycom phones from the default of "-15" to "-12" or "-9" often helps with problems where conference bridges, IVR systems, etc. aren't receiving some/all of the digits. If that doesn't help, you will need to work with L3 support. They have had numerous DTMF issues with their gateway vendor over the years, and you may be running into the next in a long line of bugs from them. S -- Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking

Thanks to all, turns out to be an issue with a sub-tending carrier for L3. Still working to resolution. From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Sprunk Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:59 AM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Broadworks/Polycom/Webex Conferences and DTMF issues On 16 Mar 2010 08:29, Dawson, Robert wrote: I?ve got a customer that is experiencing issues with DTMF recognition when utilizing Webex Conference services. I have adjusted DTMF length and level to the point that it is causing issues with some other services but they are still reporting failures. I can intermittently replicate the issue as well. Anyone experience anything similar? Thoughts? ... G.711/RFC2833/L3 I've found that increasing tone.dtmf.level on the Polycom phones from the default of "-15" to "-12" or "-9" often helps with problems where conference bridges, IVR systems, etc. aren't receiving some/all of the digits. If that doesn't help, you will need to work with L3 support. They have had numerous DTMF issues with their gateway vendor over the years, and you may be running into the next in a long line of bugs from them. S -- Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking

It happens to us all the time with our Polycom phones, but only when the user's Polycom is in speakerphone mode. If you press the mute key while in speakerphone mode and then dial the DTMF digits, the problem never occurs. -N On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Dawson, Robert <robert.dawson at mindshift.com
wrote:
I?ve got a customer that is experiencing issues with DTMF recognition when utilizing Webex Conference services. I have adjusted DTMF length and level to the point that it is causing issues with some other services but they are still reporting failures. I can intermittently replicate the issue as well. Anyone experience anything similar? Thoughts?
Robert Dawson - MCSE, MCTS Microsoft Exchange 2007
NOC 3/VoIP Engineer
mindSHIFT Technologies, Inc. 3975 Fair Ridge Drive, Suite 200 South - Fairfax, VA 22033
Tel: 571-432-4010 Cell: 571-234-2621
www.mindSHIFT.com <http://www.mindshift.com/>
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dsarvai@DSCICORP.com
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hiersd@gmail.com
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robert.dawson@mindshift.com
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stephen@sprunk.org