
Hi Everyone, We are looking for an API provider for real-time carrier lookups. Specifically because we need to determine the Canadian wireless carrier (Rogers, Bell, Telus, etc.) to know where to direct a text message. I see Twillio has a real-time API, but it's quite pricy. When I looked at this about a decade ago, Telcordia used to have monopoly on this type of data, hoping things have changed. Thanks in advance. Ivan Kovacevic VP Client Services STAR TELECOM www.startelecom.ca -- NOTE: This email message and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by replying to this email, and destroy all copies of the original message.

everyoneapi.com might be useful. Thanks, Shripal
On Mar 26, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Ivan Kovacevic <ivan.kovacevic at startelecom.ca> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
We are looking for an API provider for real-time carrier lookups. Specifically because we need to determine the Canadian wireless carrier (Rogers, Bell, Telus, etc.) to know where to direct a text message.
I see Twillio has a real-time API, but it's quite pricy. When I looked at this about a decade ago, Telcordia used to have monopoly on this type of data, hoping things have changed.
Thanks in advance.
Ivan Kovacevic VP Client Services STAR TELECOM www.startelecom.ca
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I use data24-7.com Request: https://api.data24-7.com/v/2.0?user=****&pass=****&out=json&api=C&p1=1850490... Response: { "response": { "results": [ { "status": "OK", "number": "18504901495", "wless": "y", "carrier_name": "Verizon Wireless", "carrier_id": "5", "country": "United States", "sms_address": "8504901495 at vtext.com", "mms_address": "8504901495 at vzwpix.com", "ocn": "6006" } ] } } On 03/26/2018 09:29 AM, Shripal Daphtary wrote:
everyoneapi.com might be useful.
Thanks,
Shripal
On Mar 26, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Ivan Kovacevic <ivan.kovacevic at startelecom.ca> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
We are looking for an API provider for real-time carrier lookups. Specifically because we need to determine the Canadian wireless carrier (Rogers, Bell, Telus, etc.) to know where to direct a text message.
I see Twillio has a real-time API, but it's quite pricy. When I looked at this about a decade ago, Telcordia used to have monopoly on this type of data, hoping things have changed.
Thanks in advance.
Ivan Kovacevic VP Client Services STAR TELECOM www.startelecom.ca
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Hi Glen! They are paying a 3rd party to classify known spam calls its not really a cnam dip but a dip of their "known fraud/spam" database essentially. Colin On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 4:42 PM, Glen Gerhard <ggerhard at sansay.com> wrote:
SLIGHTLY OFF TOPIC:
Lately I've been getting calls to my Tmobile cell phone with CNAMs such as Scam Likely and Nuisance Call. Even without the CNAM I know they are call centers so don't pick up, but I'm wondering who assigns that CNAM? I'd expect Tmobile to dip the CNAM but doubt the official database would flag the number this way. If it's coming from the call center app it's pretty funny. I don't know anywhere else along the call path it would be changed.
~Glen
On 3/26/2018 8:05 AM, Eric Wieling wrote:
I use data24-7.com
Request:
https://api.data24-7.com/v/2.0?user=****&pass=****&out= json&api=C&p1=18504901495&addfields=sms_address,mms_address,ocn
Response: { "response": { "results": [ { "status": "OK", "number": "18504901495", "wless": "y", "carrier_name": "Verizon Wireless", "carrier_id": "5", "country": "United States", "sms_address": "8504901495 at vtext.com" <8504901495 at vtext.com>, "mms_address": "8504901495 at vzwpix.com" <8504901495 at vzwpix.com>, "ocn": "6006" } ] } }
On 03/26/2018 09:29 AM, Shripal Daphtary wrote:
everyoneapi.com might be useful.
Thanks,
Shripal
On Mar 26, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Ivan Kovacevic <ivan.kovacevic at startelecom. ca> <ivan.kovacevic at startelecom.ca> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
We are looking for an API provider for real-time carrier lookups. Specifically because we need to determine the Canadian wireless carrier (Rogers, Bell, Telus, etc.) to know where to direct a text message.
I see Twillio has a real-time API, but it's quite pricy. When I looked at this about a decade ago, Telcordia used to have monopoly on this type of data, hoping things have changed.
Thanks in advance.
Ivan Kovacevic VP Client Services STAR TELECOM www.startelecom.ca
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On 4/13/18 4:42 PM, Glen Gerhard wrote:
SLIGHTLY OFF TOPIC:
Lately I've been getting calls to my Tmobile cell phone with CNAMs such as Scam Likely and Nuisance Call.? Even without the CNAM I know they are call centers so don't pick up, but I'm wondering who assigns that CNAM? I'd expect Tmobile to dip the CNAM but doubt the official database would flag the number this way. If it's coming from the call center app it's pretty funny. I don't know anywhere else along the call path it would be changed.
~Glen
Android phone? It's from Google, not T-Mobile. --fred

--------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Wireless Carrier Lookups: CNAM DIPS From: "Fred Posner" <fred at palner.com> Date: 4/13/18 4:44 pm To: voiceops at voiceops.org On 4/13/18 4:42 PM, Glen Gerhard wrote:
SLIGHTLY OFF TOPIC:
Lately I've been getting calls to my Tmobile cell phone with CNAMs such as Scam Likely and Nuisance Call. Even without the CNAM I know they are call centers so don't pick up, but I'm wondering who assigns that CNAM? I'd expect Tmobile to dip the CNAM but doubt the official database would flag the number this way. If it's coming from the call center app it's pretty funny. I don't know anywhere else along the call path it would be changed.
~Glen
Android phone? It's from Google, not T-Mobile. --fred T-Mobile does have a contract service that provides a database of supposedly bad actors. That's a known program, quite separate from what the smart phone OS might be doing. Michael Graves mgraves at mstvp.com http://www.mgraves.org o(713) 861-4005 c(713) 201-1262 sip:mgraves at mjg.onsip.com skype mjgraves

Do you know what provider Tmobile is using? Aryn H. K. Nakaoka anakaoka at trinet-hi.com Direct: 808.356.2901 Fax: 808.356.2919 Tri-net Solutions 518 Holokahana Lane Suite #200 Honolulu, HI 96817 http://www.trinet-hi.com https://twitter.com/AlohaTone Aloha Tone PBX https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96YWPY9wCeU Aloha Tone (HA) High Availability http://youtu.be/rJsr4k0RBH8 A Better Solution https://www.trinet-hi.com/abettersolution.pdf <https://www.trinet-hi.com/abettersolution.pdf> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any attachments may be privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure. Any disclosure, distribution or copying of this email or any attachments by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to the message and deleting this email and any attachments from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. ____________________________________________________________________ We took some time and made a fun demo for users to test the voicemail transcription. Handsfree tweeting. 1. Call 808-792-CARS (2277) and leave a voicemail 2. Check https://twitter.com/808792cars for the transcription On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Fred Posner <fred at palner.com> wrote:
T-Mobile does have a contract service that provides a database of
supposedly bad actors. That's a known program, quite separate from what the smart phone OS might be doing.
Nice
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--------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Wireless Carrier Lookups: CNAM DIPS From: "Fred Posner" <fred at palner.com> Date: 4/13/18 4:44 pm To: voiceops at voiceops.org On 4/13/18 4:42 PM, Glen Gerhard wrote:
SLIGHTLY OFF TOPIC:
Lately I've been getting calls to my Tmobile cell phone with CNAMs such as Scam Likely and Nuisance Call. Even without the CNAM I know they are call centers so don't pick up, but I'm wondering who assigns that CNAM? I'd expect Tmobile to dip the CNAM but doubt the official database would flag the number this way. If it's coming from the call center app it's pretty funny. I don't know anywhere else along the call path it would be changed.
~Glen
Android phone? It's from Google, not T-Mobile.
--fred
I was just able to confirm that T-Mobile uses Privacy Star. https://www.privacystar.com/ Michael Graves mgraves at mstvp.com http://www.mgraves.org o(713) 861-4005 c(713) 201-1262 sip:mgraves at mjg.onsip.com skype mjgraves

It?s pretty likely those are coming from our numbers. We?ve seen a dramatic increase in fraudsters using our phone numbers (both vacant and assigned) to make fraud calls. Then, the called parties often lookup the number and end up calling us to complain even though the fraudster doesn?t own the number and isn?t our customer. So, while there?s nothing we can do to prevent them from using our assigned numbers, we?ve started populating CNAM for all of our unassigned numbers nationwide with ?Probably Fraud? since no legitimate outbound calls are made from those numbers. Then when the number IS assigned, we overwrite the CNAM entry with the correct one. This has dramatically helped with the problem; far fewer people answer the fraud calls when the callerID says that. Mike Mike Ray, MBA, CNE, CTE Astro Companies, LLC 11523 Palm Brush Trail #401 Lakewood Ranch, FL 34202 DIRECT: call or text 941 600-0207 <http://www.astrocompanies.com> http://www.astrocompanies.com From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Glen Gerhard Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 4:43 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Wireless Carrier Lookups: CNAM DIPS SLIGHTLY OFF TOPIC: Lately I've been getting calls to my Tmobile cell phone with CNAMs such as Scam Likely and Nuisance Call. Even without the CNAM I know they are call centers so don't pick up, but I'm wondering who assigns that CNAM? I'd expect Tmobile to dip the CNAM but doubt the official database would flag the number this way. If it's coming from the call center app it's pretty funny. I don't know anywhere else along the call path it would be changed. ~Glen On 3/26/2018 8:05 AM, Eric Wieling wrote: I use data24-7.com Request: https://api.data24-7.com/v/2.0?user=**** <https://api.data24-7.com/v/2.0?user=****&pass=****&out=json&api=C&p1=1850490...> &pass=****&out=json&api=C&p1=18504901495&addfields=sms_address,mms_address,ocn Response: { "response": { "results": [ { "status": "OK", "number": "18504901495", "wless": "y", "carrier_name": "Verizon Wireless", "carrier_id": "5", "country": "United States", "sms_address": <mailto:8504901495 at vtext.com> "8504901495 at vtext.com", "mms_address": <mailto:8504901495 at vzwpix.com> "8504901495 at vzwpix.com", "ocn": "6006" } ] } } On 03/26/2018 09:29 AM, Shripal Daphtary wrote: everyoneapi.com might be useful. Thanks, Shripal On Mar 26, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Ivan Kovacevic <mailto:ivan.kovacevic at startelecom.ca> <ivan.kovacevic at startelecom.ca> wrote: Hi Everyone, We are looking for an API provider for real-time carrier lookups. Specifically because we need to determine the Canadian wireless carrier (Rogers, Bell, Telus, etc.) to know where to direct a text message. I see Twillio has a real-time API, but it's quite pricy. When I looked at this about a decade ago, Telcordia used to have monopoly on this type of data, hoping things have changed. Thanks in advance. Ivan Kovacevic VP Client Services STAR TELECOM www.startelecom.ca <http://www.startelecom.ca> -- NOTE: This email message and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by replying to this email, and destroy all copies of the original message. _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org <mailto:VoiceOps at voiceops.org> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org <mailto:VoiceOps at voiceops.org> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
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anakaoka@trinet-hi.com
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ewieling@nyigc.com
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fred@palner.com
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ggerhard@sansay.com
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ivan.kovacevic@startelecom.ca
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mgraves@mstvp.com
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mike@astrocompanies.com
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shripald@gmail.com
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zavoid@gmail.com