Wholesale Orig Provider with Low DID MRC and LNP Fees

What nationwide providers offers DID's at a true wholesale rate? I am looking for something $0.25 per DID and under, and LNP cost of $5 or under per port. Am I asking for too much? I know Verizon has a SIP origination option. What about AT&T, Sprint, or T-Mobile? They seem to be on-net in most all markets due to their cell phone entities.

We use and like Onvoy. I probably can't disclose our specific pricing, but it's better than your specs. Want an intro to our sales rep there? On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:49 AM Colton Conor <colton.conor at gmail.com> wrote:
What nationwide providers offers DID's at a true wholesale rate? I am looking for something $0.25 per DID and under, and LNP cost of $5 or under per port. Am I asking for too much?
I know Verizon has a SIP origination option. What about AT&T, Sprint, or T-Mobile? They seem to be on-net in most all markets due to their cell phone entities. _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops

On 06/18/2015 01:47 PM, Colton Conor wrote:
What nationwide providers offers DID's at a true wholesale rate?
What is a "true" wholesale rate? Isn't that a bit like asking, "Which major stores offer Old Spice at a true retail rate?" (i.e. a retail rate I'd like to pay) -- Alex -- Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC 303 Perimeter Center North, Suite 300 Atlanta, GA 30346 United States Tel: +1-800-250-5920 (toll-free) / +1-678-954-0671 (direct) Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.csrpswitch.com/

On 06/18/2015 01:59 PM, Alex Balashov wrote:
On 06/18/2015 01:47 PM, Colton Conor wrote:
What nationwide providers offers DID's at a true wholesale rate?
What is a "true" wholesale rate? Isn't that a bit like asking, "Which major stores offer Old Spice at a true retail rate?" (i.e. a retail rate I'd like to pay)
Seems straightforward enough of a term for me. Telephone numbers themselves don't have an actual cost, and in fact generate revenue for the LEC. Places that charge for example $10 a number are not wholesale rates. Places that cover a reasonable cost for LNP fees, cost recovery for maintenance/carrying cost/billing, a reasonable profit and expect you to know what you're doing. A true wholesale rate would be something you could make a reasonable profit with selling retail services to end users with. http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/wholesale-price.html The cost <http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/cost.html> of a good sold by a wholesaler <http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/wholesaler.html>. The wholesaler will usually charge <http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/charge.html> a price <http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/labor-rate-price-variance.html> somewhat higher than he or she paid to the producer <http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/producer.html>, and the retailer <http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/retailer.html> who purchases <http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/purchase.html> the goods <http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/goods.html> from the wholesaler will increase the price again when they sell <http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/sell.html> the good in their store <http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/store.html>.

?Yes, I understand that wholesale pricing is, among other things, resale grade, in the sense that it leaves an industry-standard margin relative to prevailing retail market rates. ? I was trying to allude with humour to the fact that there is, nevertheless, widespread disagreement as to how cheap is sufficiently cheap. The spread among suppliers is considerable. There are other variables--on-net, off-net, market tiers and interconnection areas, etc. At a minimum, we'd have to know the volumes involved to even begin to gain a sense of what kind of pricing the OP can hope to get. The legitimate wholesale pricing for 200k minutes would not strike someone with 5m minutes as "true wholesale".?? -- Alex?Balashov?|?Principal?|?Evariste?Systems?LLC 303?Perimeter?Center?North,?Suite?300 Atlanta,?GA?30346 United?States Tel:?+1-800-250-5920?(toll-free)?/?+1-678-954-0671 (direct) Web:?http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.csrpswitch.com/ Sent?from?my?BlackBerry. ? Original Message ? From: Paul Timmins Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 14:08 To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Wholesale Orig Provider with Low DID MRC and LNP Fees On 06/18/2015 01:59 PM, Alex Balashov wrote: On 06/18/2015 01:47 PM, Colton Conor wrote: What nationwide providers offers DID's at a true wholesale rate? What is a "true" wholesale rate? Isn't that a bit like asking, "Which major stores offer Old Spice at a true retail rate?" (i.e. a retail rate I'd like to pay) Seems straightforward enough of a term for me. Telephone numbers themselves don't have an actual cost, and in fact generate revenue for the LEC. Places that charge for example $10 a number are not wholesale rates. Places that cover a reasonable cost for LNP fees, cost recovery for maintenance/carrying cost/billing, a reasonable profit and expect you to know what you're doing. A true wholesale rate would be something you could make a reasonable profit with selling retail services to end users with. http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/wholesale-price.html The cost of a good sold by a wholesaler. The wholesaler will usually charge a price somewhat higher than he or she paid to the producer, and the retailer who purchases the goods from the wholesaler will increase the price again when they sell the good in their store.

Alex of course is quite on point. For us, the migration from a reseller/aggregator to a real carrier was the definition of "wholesale" in both a cost and service perspective. And that's both good and bad, too. The good is obvious--pricing, technical ability, reliability. The bad includes things like Onvoy's horrifyingly bad customer portal, which takes far longer to use than those from Vitelity, VoIP Innovations, et al. In the end though the cost savings justify the extra work. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:24 AM Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com> wrote:
?Yes, I understand that wholesale pricing is, among other things, resale grade, in the sense that it leaves an industry-standard margin relative to prevailing retail market rates. ? I was trying to allude with humour to the fact that there is, nevertheless, widespread disagreement as to how cheap is sufficiently cheap. The spread among suppliers is considerable. There are other variables--on-net, off-net, market tiers and interconnection areas, etc.
At a minimum, we'd have to know the volumes involved to even begin to gain a sense of what kind of pricing the OP can hope to get. The legitimate wholesale pricing for 200k minutes would not strike someone with 5m minutes as "true wholesale". ?
-- Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC 303 Perimeter Center North, Suite 300 Atlanta, GA 30346 United States
Tel: +1-800-250-5920 (toll-free) / +1-678-954-0671 (direct) Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.csrpswitch.com/
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On 06/18/2015 01:59 PM, Alex Balashov wrote: On 06/18/2015 01:47 PM, Colton Conor wrote:
What nationwide providers offers DID's at a true wholesale rate?
What is a "true" wholesale rate? Isn't that a bit like asking, "Which major stores offer Old Spice at a true retail rate?" (i.e. a retail rate I'd like to pay)
Seems straightforward enough of a term for me. Telephone numbers themselves don't have an actual cost, and in fact generate revenue for the LEC. Places that charge for example $10 a number are not wholesale rates. Places that cover a reasonable cost for LNP fees, cost recovery for maintenance/carrying cost/billing, a reasonable profit and expect you to know what you're doing. A true wholesale rate would be something you could make a reasonable profit with selling retail services to end users with.
http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/wholesale-price.html
The cost of a good sold by a wholesaler. The wholesaler will usually charge a price somewhat higher than he or she paid to the producer, and the retailer who purchases the goods from the wholesaler will increase the price again when they sell the good in their store.
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I'd like to add to Carlos's note that Onvoy purchased Vitelity, and they are beginning to use the Vitelity portal now. I clarify because I do business with them, think the world of them, and want everyone else to go do business with them. Thanks David On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Carlos Alvarez <caalvarez at gmail.com> wrote:
Alex of course is quite on point. For us, the migration from a reseller/aggregator to a real carrier was the definition of "wholesale" in both a cost and service perspective. And that's both good and bad, too. The good is obvious--pricing, technical ability, reliability. The bad includes things like Onvoy's horrifyingly bad customer portal, which takes far longer to use than those from Vitelity, VoIP Innovations, et al. In the end though the cost savings justify the extra work.
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:24 AM Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com> wrote:
?Yes, I understand that wholesale pricing is, among other things, resale grade, in the sense that it leaves an industry-standard margin relative to prevailing retail market rates. ? I was trying to allude with humour to the fact that there is, nevertheless, widespread disagreement as to how cheap is sufficiently cheap. The spread among suppliers is considerable. There are other variables--on-net, off-net, market tiers and interconnection areas, etc.
At a minimum, we'd have to know the volumes involved to even begin to gain a sense of what kind of pricing the OP can hope to get. The legitimate wholesale pricing for 200k minutes would not strike someone with 5m minutes as "true wholesale". ?
-- Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC 303 Perimeter Center North, Suite 300 Atlanta, GA 30346 United States
Tel: +1-800-250-5920 (toll-free) / +1-678-954-0671 (direct) Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.csrpswitch.com/
Sent from my BlackBerry. Original Message From: Paul Timmins Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 14:08 To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Wholesale Orig Provider with Low DID MRC and LNP Fees
On 06/18/2015 01:59 PM, Alex Balashov wrote: On 06/18/2015 01:47 PM, Colton Conor wrote:
What nationwide providers offers DID's at a true wholesale rate?
What is a "true" wholesale rate? Isn't that a bit like asking, "Which major stores offer Old Spice at a true retail rate?" (i.e. a retail rate I'd like to pay)
Seems straightforward enough of a term for me. Telephone numbers themselves don't have an actual cost, and in fact generate revenue for the LEC. Places that charge for example $10 a number are not wholesale rates. Places that cover a reasonable cost for LNP fees, cost recovery for maintenance/carrying cost/billing, a reasonable profit and expect you to know what you're doing. A true wholesale rate would be something you could make a reasonable profit with selling retail services to end users with.
http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/wholesale-price.html
The cost of a good sold by a wholesaler. The wholesaler will usually charge a price somewhat higher than he or she paid to the producer, and the retailer who purchases the goods from the wholesaler will increase the price again when they sell the good in their store.
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Don't forget Onvoy owns Vitelity now. And Onvoy is owned by Zayo. http://blog.tmcnet.com/on-rads-radar/2014/06/more-voip-ma-onvoy-buys-vitelit... On Thu, 18 Jun 2015, Carlos Alvarez wrote:
Alex of course is quite on point. For us, the migration from a reseller/aggregator to a real carrier was the definition of "wholesale" in both a cost and service perspective. And that's both good and bad, too. The good is obvious--pricing, technical ability, reliability. The bad includes things like Onvoy's horrifyingly bad customer portal, which takes far longer to use than those from Vitelity, VoIP Innovations, et al. In the end though the cost savings justify the extra work.
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:24 AM Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com> wrote:
?Yes, I understand that wholesale pricing is, among other things, resale grade, in the sense that it leaves an industry-standard margin relative to prevailing retail market rates. ? I was trying to allude with humour to the fact that there is, nevertheless, widespread disagreement as to how cheap is sufficiently cheap. The spread among suppliers is considerable. There are other variables--on-net, off-net, market tiers and interconnection areas, etc.
At a minimum, we'd have to know the volumes involved to even begin to gain a sense of what kind of pricing the OP can hope to get. The legitimate wholesale pricing for 200k minutes would not strike someone with 5m minutes as "true wholesale". ?
-- Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC 303 Perimeter Center North, Suite 300 Atlanta, GA 30346 United States
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Sent from my BlackBerry. Original Message From: Paul Timmins Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 14:08 To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Wholesale Orig Provider with Low DID MRC and LNP Fees
On 06/18/2015 01:59 PM, Alex Balashov wrote: On 06/18/2015 01:47 PM, Colton Conor wrote:
What nationwide providers offers DID's at a true wholesale rate?
What is a "true" wholesale rate? Isn't that a bit like asking, "Which major stores offer Old Spice at a true retail rate?" (i.e. a retail rate I'd like to pay)
Seems straightforward enough of a term for me. Telephone numbers themselves don't have an actual cost, and in fact generate revenue for the LEC. Places that charge for example $10 a number are not wholesale rates. Places that cover a reasonable cost for LNP fees, cost recovery for maintenance/carrying cost/billing, a reasonable profit and expect you to know what you're doing. A true wholesale rate would be something you could make a reasonable profit with selling retail services to end users with.
http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/wholesale-price.html
The cost of a good sold by a wholesaler. The wholesaler will usually charge a price somewhat higher than he or she paid to the producer, and the retailer who purchases the goods from the wholesaler will increase the price again when they sell the good in their store.
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Don't forget Onvoy owns Vitelity now. And Onvoy is owned by Zayo.
http://blog.tmcnet.com/on-rads-radar/2014/06/more-voip-ma-onvoy-buys-vitelit...
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I somewhat understand his point. I have been working on building a fax service and also a hosted Lync service that will be offered with our Office 365 business and I have found that a lot of providers don't really want to be in the wholesale business. Years ago I found the Level 3's and Focal's where happy providing services to other carries but I don't feel the same is true today. It looks like we are going to go the route be becoming a CLEC again and interconnecting with the LECs. Cheers Ryan -----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Alex Balashov Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:00 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Wholesale Orig Provider with Low DID MRC and LNP Fees On 06/18/2015 01:47 PM, Colton Conor wrote:
What nationwide providers offers DID's at a true wholesale rate?
What is a "true" wholesale rate? Isn't that a bit like asking, "Which major stores offer Old Spice at a true retail rate?" (i.e. a retail rate I'd like to pay) -- Alex -- Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC 303 Perimeter Center North, Suite 300 Atlanta, GA 30346 United States Tel: +1-800-250-5920 (toll-free) / +1-678-954-0671 (direct) Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.csrpswitch.com/ _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops

We're a wholesale provider... only wholesale. Mark www.akabis.com -----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Finnesey Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 2:41 PM To: Alex Balashov; voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Wholesale Orig Provider with Low DID MRC and LNP Fees I somewhat understand his point. I have been working on building a fax service and also a hosted Lync service that will be offered with our Office 365 business and I have found that a lot of providers don't really want to be in the wholesale business. Years ago I found the Level 3's and Focal's where happy providing services to other carries but I don't feel the same is true today. It looks like we are going to go the route be becoming a CLEC again and interconnecting with the LECs. Cheers Ryan -----Original Message----- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Alex Balashov Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:00 PM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Wholesale Orig Provider with Low DID MRC and LNP Fees On 06/18/2015 01:47 PM, Colton Conor wrote:
What nationwide providers offers DID's at a true wholesale rate?
What is a "true" wholesale rate? Isn't that a bit like asking, "Which major stores offer Old Spice at a true retail rate?" (i.e. a retail rate I'd like to pay) -- Alex -- Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC 303 Perimeter Center North, Suite 300 Atlanta, GA 30346 United States Tel: +1-800-250-5920 (toll-free) / +1-678-954-0671 (direct) Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.csrpswitch.com/ _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops

On 06/19/2015 02:41 PM, Ryan Finnesey wrote:
I have found that a lot of providers don't really want to be in the wholesale business.
Well, I don't know -- I can't really argue with this anecdotal observation. Maybe it's statistically-quantitatively true. What I can say is that we wouldn't have a business model or a successful software product for wholesale ITSP operators if wholesale were not a popular business. -- Alex -- Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC 303 Perimeter Center North, Suite 300 Atlanta, GA 30346 United States Tel: +1-800-250-5920 (toll-free) / +1-678-954-0671 (direct) Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.csrpswitch.com/

You can look at intelepeer. They have pretty solid rates and LNP and did charges.
On Jun 18, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Colton Conor <colton.conor at gmail.com> wrote:
What nationwide providers offers DID's at a true wholesale rate? I am looking for something $0.25 per DID and under, and LNP cost of $5 or under per port. Am I asking for too much?
I know Verizon has a SIP origination option. What about AT&T, Sprint, or T-Mobile? They seem to be on-net in most all markets due to their cell phone entities. _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops

So its seems most of this list is recommending Onvoy which I have never looked at before. I guess I will check them out. I guess I need to be a little more exact. I am looking for someone who offers low cost DIDs nationwide AND E911, Inbound CNAM, Outbound CNAM, SMS (hopefully but not required), and DL. We are talking about 500 residential subsribers here, so they will all need and want all of those features. Basically I am looking for the lowest TCO for a DID with all of these features. What is the going rate for E911 these days? Who are the primary providers that everyone else resells? On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Colton Conor <colton.conor at gmail.com> wrote:
What nationwide providers offers DID's at a true wholesale rate? I am looking for something $0.25 per DID and under, and LNP cost of $5 or under per port. Am I asking for too much?
I know Verizon has a SIP origination option. What about AT&T, Sprint, or T-Mobile? They seem to be on-net in most all markets due to their cell phone entities.

?Colton, ?500 ?subscribers (and +/- 500 DIDs, since they're residential) would not be considered a wholesale volume. If you brought that to a wholesale provider, they would likely tell you to come back when you have "true wholesale" volumes. :-) -- Alex?Balashov?|?Principal?|?Evariste?Systems?LLC 303?Perimeter?Center?North,?Suite?300 Atlanta,?GA?30346 United?States Tel:?+1-800-250-5920?(toll-free)?/?+1-678-954-0671 (direct) Web:?http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.csrpswitch.com/ Sent?from?my?BlackBerry. ? Original Message ? From: Colton Conor Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 09:50 To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Wholesale Orig Provider with Low DID MRC and LNP Fees So its seems most of this list is recommending Onvoy which I have never looked at before. I guess I will check them out. I guess I need to be a little more exact. I am looking for someone who offers low cost DIDs nationwide AND E911, Inbound CNAM, Outbound CNAM, SMS (hopefully but not required), and DL. We are talking about 500 residential subsribers here, so they will all need and want all of those features. Basically I am looking for the lowest TCO for a DID with all of these features.? What is the going rate for E911 these days? Who are the primary providers that everyone else resells?? On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Colton Conor <colton.conor at gmail.com> wrote: What nationwide providers offers DID's at a true wholesale rate? I am looking for something $0.25 per DID and under, and LNP cost of $5 or under per port. Am I asking for too much? I know Verizon has a SIP origination option. What about AT&T, Sprint, or T-Mobile? They seem to be on-net in most all markets due to their cell phone entities.?

I'm pretty sure he'd fit into Onvoy's minimums. The prices really are much lower than all the reseller "wholesale" types. On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 8:35 AM Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com> wrote:
?Colton,
?500 ?subscribers (and +/- 500 DIDs, since they're residential) would not be considered a wholesale volume. If you brought that to a wholesale provider, they would likely tell you to come back when you have "true wholesale" volumes. :-)
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Tel: +1-800-250-5920 (toll-free) / +1-678-954-0671 (direct) Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.csrpswitch.com/
Sent from my BlackBerry. Original Message From: Colton Conor Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 09:50 To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Wholesale Orig Provider with Low DID MRC and LNP Fees
So its seems most of this list is recommending Onvoy which I have never looked at before. I guess I will check them out.
I guess I need to be a little more exact. I am looking for someone who offers low cost DIDs nationwide AND E911, Inbound CNAM, Outbound CNAM, SMS (hopefully but not required), and DL. We are talking about 500 residential subsribers here, so they will all need and want all of those features. Basically I am looking for the lowest TCO for a DID with all of these features.
What is the going rate for E911 these days? Who are the primary providers that everyone else resells?
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Colton Conor <colton.conor at gmail.com> wrote: What nationwide providers offers DID's at a true wholesale rate? I am looking for something $0.25 per DID and under, and LNP cost of $5 or under per port. Am I asking for too much?
I know Verizon has a SIP origination option. What about AT&T, Sprint, or T-Mobile? They seem to be on-net in most all markets due to their cell phone entities.
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On 06/19/2015 03:06 PM, Carlos Alvarez wrote:
I'm pretty sure he'd fit into Onvoy's minimums. The prices really are much lower than all the reseller "wholesale" types.
Fair enough. I have observed, more generally, that providers are getting better and better, over the last few years, at delivering smaller transactions and extending MFN (or close) pricing to even relatively small customers. -- Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC 303 Perimeter Center North, Suite 300 Atlanta, GA 30346 United States Tel: +1-800-250-5920 (toll-free) / +1-678-954-0671 (direct) Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.csrpswitch.com/

What are you getting quoted now? My guess for retail pricing : $1 / DID per $1 / E911 per $0.01 per minute ? how many minutes are you pushing now? Aryn H. K. Nakaoka anakaoka at trinet-hi.com Direct: 808.356.2901 Fax : 808.356.2919 Tri-net Solutions 733 Bishop St. #1170 Honolulu, HI 96813 http://www.trinet-hi.com Aloha Tone PBX <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96YWPY9wCeU> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96YWPY9wCeU <http://youtu.be/27v2wbnFIDs> Aloha Tone (HA) High Availability <http://youtu.be/rJsr4k0RBH8> http://youtu.be/rJsr4k0RBH8 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any attachments may be privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure. Any disclosure, distribution or copying of this email or any attachments by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to the message and deleting this email and any attachments from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 3:49 AM, Colton Conor <colton.conor at gmail.com> wrote:
So its seems most of this list is recommending Onvoy which I have never looked at before. I guess I will check them out.
I guess I need to be a little more exact. I am looking for someone who offers low cost DIDs nationwide AND E911, Inbound CNAM, Outbound CNAM, SMS (hopefully but not required), and DL. We are talking about 500 residential subsribers here, so they will all need and want all of those features. Basically I am looking for the lowest TCO for a DID with all of these features.
What is the going rate for E911 these days? Who are the primary providers that everyone else resells?
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Colton Conor <colton.conor at gmail.com> wrote:
What nationwide providers offers DID's at a true wholesale rate? I am looking for something $0.25 per DID and under, and LNP cost of $5 or under per port. Am I asking for too much?
I know Verizon has a SIP origination option. What about AT&T, Sprint, or T-Mobile? They seem to be on-net in most all markets due to their cell phone entities.
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Does anyone have any experience with Peerless Network?s DID product? If so, any recommendation one way or the other? Thanks, Matt Kohly Socket Telecom, LLC From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Colton Conor Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 8:49 AM To: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Wholesale Orig Provider with Low DID MRC and LNP Fees So its seems most of this list is recommending Onvoy which I have never looked at before. I guess I will check them out. I guess I need to be a little more exact. I am looking for someone who offers low cost DIDs nationwide AND E911, Inbound CNAM, Outbound CNAM, SMS (hopefully but not required), and DL. We are talking about 500 residential subsribers here, so they will all need and want all of those features. Basically I am looking for the lowest TCO for a DID with all of these features. What is the going rate for E911 these days? Who are the primary providers that everyone else resells? On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Colton Conor <colton.conor at gmail.com> wrote: What nationwide providers offers DID's at a true wholesale rate? I am looking for something $0.25 per DID and under, and LNP cost of $5 or under per port. Am I asking for too much? I know Verizon has a SIP origination option. What about AT&T, Sprint, or T-Mobile? They seem to be on-net in most all markets due to their cell phone entities.
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david@ringfree.biz
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mwiles@akabis.com
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paul@timmins.net
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peter@4isps.com
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rmkohly@sockettelecom.com
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ryan@finnesey.com
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shripald@gmail.com