On another note have you do you know if the alarm modem will work over voip? With my experience fax works with t.38 normal modem calls not so well. Hit and miss. -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Paul Timmins Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:05 AM To: Brian_Tate at syncglobal.net Cc: VoiceOps at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] analog pulse dialing solutions It might be cheaper to pay to upgrade their alarm panel, just a thought. Brian Tate wrote:
Thanks for all the pointers!
The application is supporting an old alarm system that only supports pulse dialing over an analog line. The customer is located in a rural area.
From what I have found so far, only the Innomedia models seems to explicitly support the feature. We aren't a Cisco shop.
Thanks, Brian
-----Original Message----- From: Matt Yaklin [mailto:myaklin at g4.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 6:17 PM To: Paul Timmins Cc: Brian_Tate at syncglobal.net; VoiceOps at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] analog pulse dialing solutions
I cannot even think of a legacy setup that would require pulse dialing...
It must be a heck of a customer account to warrant putting in this research and work to get their contract.
One has to wonder if you could just go on ebay and buy them a new kit for 99 bucks and it would be 15 years newer yet still 10 years old ;-) Here customer, a freebie!
Just for curiousity sake could you share with us the legacy setup that got you onto this path?
But some google foo turned up URLs like this: http://soundwin.co.uk/s202.html
which says it supports pulse dialing. Pulse Dial support: Support pulse dialing generation and detection.(Optional)
good luck and let us know how it all works out.
matt at g4.net
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, Paul Timmins wrote:
And someone here was saying that technologies obsoleted by better options
die
a quick death. Hah! :)
Brian Tate wrote:
Can anyone share experience with supporting legacy systems that require analog pulse dialing?
It seems that SIP ATA?s and VoIP media gateways prefer tone dialing instead.
Do the ?dial pulse to DTMF? converters really work for business class services?
?Anyone selling good implementations of US Patent 6914978?
Thanks in advance,
Brian
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I've had success using dial-up internet over a voip connection. Latency was 400+ms to the gateway. I wouldn't recommend it as a pleasurable experience, but it worked. On 12/9/2009 11:14 AM, Carlos Alcantar wrote:
On another note have you do you know if the alarm modem will work over voip? With my experience fax works with t.38 normal modem calls not so well. Hit and miss.
-----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Paul Timmins Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:05 AM To: Brian_Tate at syncglobal.net Cc: VoiceOps at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] analog pulse dialing solutions
It might be cheaper to pay to upgrade their alarm panel, just a thought.
Brian Tate wrote:
Thanks for all the pointers!
The application is supporting an old alarm system that only supports
pulse
dialing over an analog line. The customer is located in a rural area.
From what I have found so far, only the Innomedia models seems to
explicitly
support the feature. We aren't a Cisco shop.
Thanks, Brian
-----Original Message----- From: Matt Yaklin [mailto:myaklin at g4.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 6:17 PM To: Paul Timmins Cc: Brian_Tate at syncglobal.net; VoiceOps at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] analog pulse dialing solutions
I cannot even think of a legacy setup that would require pulse
dialing...
It must be a heck of a customer account to warrant putting in this research and work to get their contract.
One has to wonder if you could just go on ebay and buy them a new kit for 99 bucks and it would be 15 years newer yet still 10 years old ;-) Here customer, a freebie!
Just for curiousity sake could you share with us the legacy setup that got you onto this path?
But some google foo turned up URLs like this: http://soundwin.co.uk/s202.html
which says it supports pulse dialing. Pulse Dial support: Support pulse dialing generation and detection.(Optional)
good luck and let us know how it all works out.
matt at g4.net
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, Paul Timmins wrote:
And someone here was saying that technologies obsoleted by better
options
die
a quick death. Hah! :)
Brian Tate wrote:
Can anyone share experience with supporting legacy systems that
require
analog pulse dialing?
It seems that SIP ATA?s and VoIP media gateways prefer tone dialing instead.
Do the ?dial pulse to DTMF? converters really work for business
class
services?
?Anyone selling good implementations of US Patent 6914978?
Thanks in advance,
Brian
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* Engineer 678-821-1129 *
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We have a few customers doing alarm and credit card over plain old ulaw, and a few doing fax. This works well on the connections where we control the QoS, such as our local Wi-MAX provider (<3ms latency anywhere in the city). On generic connections, fax is mostly unusable and the alarm/card machines get around a 5-10% call failure rate. On 12/9/09 10:29 AM, Lee Riemer wrote:
I've had success using dial-up internet over a voip connection. Latency was 400+ms to the gateway. I wouldn't recommend it as a pleasurable experience, but it worked.
On 12/9/2009 11:14 AM, Carlos Alcantar wrote:
On another note have you do you know if the alarm modem will work over voip? With my experience fax works with t.38 normal modem calls not so well. Hit and miss.
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KQtek out of taiwan makes a voip ata(EMG202) based around Dial-up. Its definitely an experience, but is "widely" used in parts of Africa. www.kqtek.com/p_EMG202.htm There site appears to be unreachable right now but i know a few companies that support it such as Delta3 & Talkfree. Colin On Dec 9, 2009, at 12:29 PM, Lee Riemer wrote:
I've had success using dial-up internet over a voip connection. Latency was 400+ms to the gateway. I wouldn't recommend it as a pleasurable experience, but it worked.
On 12/9/2009 11:14 AM, Carlos Alcantar wrote:
On another note have you do you know if the alarm modem will work over voip? With my experience fax works with t.38 normal modem calls not so well. Hit and miss.
-----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Paul Timmins Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:05 AM To: Brian_Tate at syncglobal.net Cc: VoiceOps at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] analog pulse dialing solutions
It might be cheaper to pay to upgrade their alarm panel, just a thought.
Brian Tate wrote:
Thanks for all the pointers!
The application is supporting an old alarm system that only supports
pulse
dialing over an analog line. The customer is located in a rural area.
From what I have found so far, only the Innomedia models seems to
explicitly
support the feature. We aren't a Cisco shop.
Thanks, Brian
-----Original Message----- From: Matt Yaklin [mailto:myaklin at g4.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 6:17 PM To: Paul Timmins Cc: Brian_Tate at syncglobal.net; VoiceOps at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] analog pulse dialing solutions
I cannot even think of a legacy setup that would require pulse
dialing...
It must be a heck of a customer account to warrant putting in this research and work to get their contract.
One has to wonder if you could just go on ebay and buy them a new kit for 99 bucks and it would be 15 years newer yet still 10 years old ;-) Here customer, a freebie!
Just for curiousity sake could you share with us the legacy setup that got you onto this path?
But some google foo turned up URLs like this: http://soundwin.co.uk/s202.html
which says it supports pulse dialing. Pulse Dial support: Support pulse dialing generation and detection.(Optional)
good luck and let us know how it all works out.
matt at g4.net
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, Paul Timmins wrote:
And someone here was saying that technologies obsoleted by better
options
die
a quick death. Hah! :)
Brian Tate wrote:
Can anyone share experience with supporting legacy systems that
require
analog pulse dialing?
It seems that SIP ATA?s and VoIP media gateways prefer tone dialing instead.
Do the ?dial pulse to DTMF? converters really work for business
class
services?
?Anyone selling good implementations of US Patent 6914978?
Thanks in advance,
Brian
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As update, the decision was made to upgrade the alarm system to support tone dialing. (Anyone surprised?) Carlos, this customer also successfully hangs a credit card machine, one fax and two modems on this same analog line we started providing recently. They use a "Commswitch" (?) device to share the line between the fax and modems; the CC machine is simply bridge tapped between the Commswitch and our demark. And of course, the alarm system is set-up for line seizure in front of it all. We provide the analog line with an Adtran IAD that supports both G711 and t.38 on the line. Thank you again to all, Brian -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Alcantar Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:15 PM To: VoiceOps at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] analog pulse dialing solutions On another note have you do you know if the alarm modem will work over voip? With my experience fax works with t.38 normal modem calls not so well. Hit and miss.
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