
Hello, We deploy the total range of Adtran TA900s as CPE feature-rich boxes, and in general like the product. However, of the last 25 Adtran TA 900s we've deployed, we've had 6 with confirmed hardware defects where the symptoms range from the obvious hardware crashes, to much trickier and costly bugs to find, such as bad DSPs, and one that had a bad clocking chip. Adtran claims I'm alone in this, and it's gotten to the point where I'm seriously considering building a quality control TA900 tester in the lab to torture all prospective field boxes. Anyone notice anything like this percentage of defects? Regards, -- Owen Roth Network Engineer Impulse Internet Services http://impulse.net/customer-support mailto:owen at impulse.net Tech Support: 805-456-5800 w: 805-884-6332

Have had a small rash of flash chip failures but beyond that with hundreds in the field I can count the number of DSP failures on one hand. Owen Roth wrote:
Hello,
We deploy the total range of Adtran TA900s as CPE feature-rich boxes, and in general like the product. However, of the last 25 Adtran TA 900s we've deployed, we've had 6 with confirmed hardware defects where the symptoms range from the obvious hardware crashes, to much trickier and costly bugs to find, such as bad DSPs, and one that had a bad clocking chip. Adtran claims I'm alone in this, and it's gotten to the point where I'm seriously considering building a quality control TA900 tester in the lab to torture all prospective field boxes. Anyone notice anything like this percentage of defects?
Regards,

I just swapped out a 916 that had a bad flash. Adtran support sent an advanced replacement in a few days. I've used the TA900s and found Adtran's support was much better(free). It's almost impossible to get any real help on the Cisco boxes without a Smartnet contract. Richey -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Paul Timmins Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:35 PM To: owen at impulse.net Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Problems with defective Adtran TA900s Have had a small rash of flash chip failures but beyond that with hundreds in the field I can count the number of DSP failures on one hand. Owen Roth wrote:
Hello,
We deploy the total range of Adtran TA900s as CPE feature-rich boxes, and in general like the product. However, of the last 25 Adtran TA 900s we've deployed, we've had 6 with confirmed hardware defects where the symptoms range from the obvious hardware crashes, to much trickier and costly bugs to find, such as bad DSPs, and one that had a bad clocking chip. Adtran claims I'm alone in this, and it's gotten to the point where I'm seriously considering building a quality control TA900 tester in the lab to torture all prospective field boxes. Anyone notice anything like this percentage of defects?
Regards,
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Richey wrote:
I just swapped out a 916 that had a bad flash. Adtran support sent an advanced replacement in a few days. I've used the TA900s and found Adtran's support was much better(free). It's almost impossible to get any real help on the Cisco boxes without a Smartnet contract.
I can also state that adtran support is some of the best out there. Sure, sometimes you get a dud unit but they more then make up for it in other areas. And those dud units are such a tiny percentage of their gear we use I cannot state it is a major problem. matt
Richey
-----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Paul Timmins Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:35 PM To: owen at impulse.net Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Problems with defective Adtran TA900s
Have had a small rash of flash chip failures but beyond that with hundreds in the field I can count the number of DSP failures on one hand.
Owen Roth wrote:
Hello,
We deploy the total range of Adtran TA900s as CPE feature-rich boxes, and in general like the product. However, of the last 25 Adtran TA 900s we've deployed, we've had 6 with confirmed hardware defects where the symptoms range from the obvious hardware crashes, to much trickier and costly bugs to find, such as bad DSPs, and one that had a bad clocking chip. Adtran claims I'm alone in this, and it's gotten to the point where I'm seriously considering building a quality control TA900 tester in the lab to torture all prospective field boxes. Anyone notice anything like this percentage of defects?
Regards,
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You're not alone. On Oct 15, 2009, at 5:33 PM, Owen Roth wrote:
Hello,
We deploy the total range of Adtran TA900s as CPE feature-rich boxes, and in general like the product. However, of the last 25 Adtran TA 900s we've deployed, we've had 6 with confirmed hardware defects where the symptoms range from the obvious hardware crashes, to much trickier and costly bugs to find, such as bad DSPs, and one that had a bad clocking chip. Adtran claims I'm alone in this, and it's gotten to the point where I'm seriously considering building a quality control TA900 tester in the lab to torture all prospective field boxes. Anyone notice anything like this percentage of defects?
Regards,
-- Owen Roth Network Engineer Impulse Internet Services http://impulse.net/customer-support mailto:owen at impulse.net Tech Support: 805-456-5800 w: 805-884-6332
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Nope, you're not alone at all. You described issues we have seen as well. Joe -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Mark Holloway Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:37 PM To: owen at impulse.net Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Problems with defective Adtran TA900s You're not alone. On Oct 15, 2009, at 5:33 PM, Owen Roth wrote:
Hello,
We deploy the total range of Adtran TA900s as CPE feature-rich boxes, and in general like the product. However, of the last 25 Adtran TA 900s we've deployed, we've had 6 with confirmed hardware defects where the symptoms range from the obvious hardware crashes, to much trickier and costly bugs to find, such as bad DSPs, and one that had a bad clocking chip. Adtran claims I'm alone in this, and it's gotten to the point where I'm seriously considering building a quality control TA900 tester in the lab to torture all prospective field boxes. Anyone notice anything like this percentage of defects?
Regards,
-- Owen Roth Network Engineer Impulse Internet Services http://impulse.net/customer-support mailto:owen at impulse.net Tech Support: 805-456-5800 w: 805-884-6332
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Maybe a few of you who are having this high failure rate could post the first 10 digits of the LBADTN Serial number. For example I have a good TA924E and the first 10 are LBADTN0923 The format goes LB - Telcordia (issuing Agency) ADTN - Adtran 09 - Year 2009 23 - 23rd Week of Year So this unit was built between June 1 and June 7th 2009. http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/custom.html?year=2009&country=1&cols=1&w... Maybe these failing units were all part of a common manufacturing run... -----Original Message----- From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Mark Holloway Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:37 PM To: owen at impulse.net Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Problems with defective Adtran TA900s You're not alone. On Oct 15, 2009, at 5:33 PM, Owen Roth wrote:
Hello,
We deploy the total range of Adtran TA900s as CPE feature-rich boxes, and in general like the product. However, of the last 25 Adtran TA 900s we've deployed, we've had 6 with confirmed hardware defects where the symptoms range from the obvious hardware crashes, to much trickier and costly bugs to find, such as bad DSPs, and one that had a bad clocking chip. Adtran claims I'm alone in this, and it's gotten to the point where I'm seriously considering building a quality control TA900 tester in the lab to torture all prospective field boxes. Anyone notice anything like this percentage of defects?
Regards,
-- Owen Roth Network Engineer Impulse Internet Services http://impulse.net/customer-support mailto:owen at impulse.net Tech Support: 805-456-5800 w: 805-884-6332
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Their defect rate is crazy high for us, too. Quite painful for us, and we're screaming at them right now. Almost not worth the trouble. On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Owen Roth <owen at impulse.net> wrote:
Hello,
We deploy the total range of Adtran TA900s as CPE feature-rich boxes, and in general like the product. However, of the last 25 Adtran TA 900s we've deployed, we've had 6 with confirmed hardware defects where the symptoms range from the obvious hardware crashes, to much trickier and costly bugs to find, such as bad DSPs, and one that had a bad clocking chip. Adtran claims I'm alone in this, and it's gotten to the point where I'm seriously considering building a quality control TA900 tester in the lab to torture all prospective field boxes. Anyone notice anything like this percentage of defects?
Regards,
-- Owen Roth Network Engineer Impulse Internet Services http://impulse.net/customer-support mailto:owen at impulse.net Tech Support: 805-456-5800 w: 805-884-6332
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