
Greetings all, We've got an internal tool that lets my NOC staff query extended LRN on numbers. They use this for checking the numbers current carrier, Verifying a number after it ports (In or out)..etc. This same tool also pulls CNAM from a few sources so they can easily test "Wrong caller ID" tickets. Does anyone have any good leads on someone that has a good non-cached LRN API? We've tried two thus far with poor results. 1. "CallWithUs", Real time results, But cached for 24 hours after the first request. So if we wanted to check a number more then once a day, We get the same results. 2. ThinQ. Results returned are either cached, Or perhaps outdated. Querying a number after it ports returns the old LRN. Results do not update until 24 hours after port. Since we have a decent bit of traffic on ThinQ, And a decent relationship with them I opened a ticket to see if it could be a adjusted. First was told that LRN takes 24 hours to update. And that was normal. I pushed back on the obvious canned and incorrect response and they "made some changes" which did nothing. Finally they admitted they could not return real-time results. Many of my upstream carriers are using Syniverse as their LRN source. So I reached out to them. Found my volume (~20 queries a day) is too low for them. And they don't offer any type of HTTP API, Understandably on both counts. Example output of our internal tool. (Queried 13212051100) Latest CNAM / LRN Lookup Refresh (OPCN) CNAM FLHSI (Thinq) CNAM FLHSI LRN 4078675999 State FL Rate Center ORLANDO LATA 458 OCN 382G Company TERRA NOVA TELECOM, INC. - FL Request Timestamp 2017-04-13 16:40:19 Nick Olsen Sr. Network Engineer Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x106

I wrote a similar internal tool using https://www.everyoneapi.com/ We've been using it for a few years and have never had any issues. I've also hit the API with some bulk requests and the results are great. +13212051100 Name: Florida High Speed Internet | Internet Services CNAM: FLHSI Line Type: landline Line Provider: Hook Mobile (Sybase) () Current Carrier: Terra Nova Telecom (382G) Original Carrier: tw telecom (7635) Location: 1311 Bedford Dr Melbourne FL 329401975 Gender: Education: Occupation: On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 4:41 PM Nick Olsen <nick at flhsi.com> wrote:
Greetings all,
We've got an internal tool that lets my NOC staff query extended LRN on numbers. They use this for checking the numbers current carrier, Verifying a number after it ports (In or out)..etc. This same tool also pulls CNAM from a few sources so they can easily test "Wrong caller ID" tickets.
Does anyone have any good leads on someone that has a good non-cached LRN API?
We've tried two thus far with poor results.
1. "CallWithUs", Real time results, But cached for 24 hours after the first request. So if we wanted to check a number more then once a day, We get the same results.
2. ThinQ. Results returned are either cached, Or perhaps outdated. Querying a number after it ports returns the old LRN. Results do not update until 24 hours after port. Since we have a decent bit of traffic on ThinQ, And a decent relationship with them I opened a ticket to see if it could be a adjusted. First was told that LRN takes 24 hours to update. And that was normal. I pushed back on the obvious canned and incorrect response and they "made some changes" which did nothing. Finally they admitted they could not return real-time results.
Many of my upstream carriers are using Syniverse as their LRN source. So I reached out to them. Found my volume (~20 queries a day) is too low for them. And they don't offer any type of HTTP API, Understandably on both counts.
Example output of our internal tool. (Queried 13212051100 <(321)%20205-1100>)
Latest CNAM / LRN Lookup Refresh <http://noc.flhsi.com/did/3212051100/dip> (OPCN) CNAM FLHSI (Thinq) CNAM FLHSI LRN 4078675999 <(407)%20867-5999> State FL Rate Center ORLANDO LATA 458 OCN 382G Company TERRA NOVA TELECOM, INC. - FL Request Timestamp 2017-04-13 16:40:19
*Nick Olsen* Sr. Network Engineer Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x106 <(321)%20205-1100> <http://twitter.com/flhsi>
<https://twitter.com/flhsi> <https://facebook.com/flhighspeed>
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Just noticed you are you looking for LRN specifically - try http://www.bulk911.com/cnam.html similar REST API. On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 4:48 PM Christopher Aloi <ctaloi at gmail.com> wrote:
I wrote a similar internal tool using https://www.everyoneapi.com/ We've been using it for a few years and have never had any issues. I've also hit the API with some bulk requests and the results are great.
+13212051100 <(321)%20205-1100> Name: Florida High Speed Internet | Internet Services CNAM: FLHSI Line Type: landline Line Provider: Hook Mobile (Sybase) () Current Carrier: Terra Nova Telecom (382G) Original Carrier: tw telecom (7635) Location: 1311 Bedford Dr Melbourne FL 329401975 Gender: Education: Occupation:
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 4:41 PM Nick Olsen <nick at flhsi.com> wrote:
Greetings all,
We've got an internal tool that lets my NOC staff query extended LRN on numbers. They use this for checking the numbers current carrier, Verifying a number after it ports (In or out)..etc. This same tool also pulls CNAM from a few sources so they can easily test "Wrong caller ID" tickets.
Does anyone have any good leads on someone that has a good non-cached LRN API?
We've tried two thus far with poor results.
1. "CallWithUs", Real time results, But cached for 24 hours after the first request. So if we wanted to check a number more then once a day, We get the same results.
2. ThinQ. Results returned are either cached, Or perhaps outdated. Querying a number after it ports returns the old LRN. Results do not update until 24 hours after port. Since we have a decent bit of traffic on ThinQ, And a decent relationship with them I opened a ticket to see if it could be a adjusted. First was told that LRN takes 24 hours to update. And that was normal. I pushed back on the obvious canned and incorrect response and they "made some changes" which did nothing. Finally they admitted they could not return real-time results.
Many of my upstream carriers are using Syniverse as their LRN source. So I reached out to them. Found my volume (~20 queries a day) is too low for them. And they don't offer any type of HTTP API, Understandably on both counts.
Example output of our internal tool. (Queried 13212051100 <(321)%20205-1100>)
Latest CNAM / LRN Lookup Refresh <http://noc.flhsi.com/did/3212051100/dip> (OPCN) CNAM FLHSI (Thinq) CNAM FLHSI LRN 4078675999 <(407)%20867-5999> State FL Rate Center ORLANDO LATA 458 OCN 382G Company TERRA NOVA TELECOM, INC. - FL Request Timestamp 2017-04-13 16:40:19
*Nick Olsen* Sr. Network Engineer Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x106 <(321)%20205-1100> <http://twitter.com/flhsi>
<https://twitter.com/flhsi> <https://facebook.com/flhighspeed>
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These guys have accurate data and are cheap: http://www.bulk911.com/cnam.html -- Tim On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Christopher Aloi <ctaloi at gmail.com> wrote:
I wrote a similar internal tool using https://www.everyoneapi.com/ We've been using it for a few years and have never had any issues. I've also hit the API with some bulk requests and the results are great.
+13212051100 <(321)%20205-1100> Name: Florida High Speed Internet | Internet Services CNAM: FLHSI Line Type: landline Line Provider: Hook Mobile (Sybase) () Current Carrier: Terra Nova Telecom (382G) Original Carrier: tw telecom (7635) Location: 1311 Bedford Dr Melbourne FL 329401975 Gender: Education: Occupation:
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 4:41 PM Nick Olsen <nick at flhsi.com> wrote:
Greetings all,
We've got an internal tool that lets my NOC staff query extended LRN on numbers. They use this for checking the numbers current carrier, Verifying a number after it ports (In or out)..etc. This same tool also pulls CNAM from a few sources so they can easily test "Wrong caller ID" tickets.
Does anyone have any good leads on someone that has a good non-cached LRN API?
We've tried two thus far with poor results.
1. "CallWithUs", Real time results, But cached for 24 hours after the first request. So if we wanted to check a number more then once a day, We get the same results.
2. ThinQ. Results returned are either cached, Or perhaps outdated. Querying a number after it ports returns the old LRN. Results do not update until 24 hours after port. Since we have a decent bit of traffic on ThinQ, And a decent relationship with them I opened a ticket to see if it could be a adjusted. First was told that LRN takes 24 hours to update. And that was normal. I pushed back on the obvious canned and incorrect response and they "made some changes" which did nothing. Finally they admitted they could not return real-time results.
Many of my upstream carriers are using Syniverse as their LRN source. So I reached out to them. Found my volume (~20 queries a day) is too low for them. And they don't offer any type of HTTP API, Understandably on both counts.
Example output of our internal tool. (Queried 13212051100 <(321)%20205-1100>)
Latest CNAM / LRN Lookup Refresh <http://noc.flhsi.com/did/3212051100/dip> (OPCN) CNAM FLHSI (Thinq) CNAM FLHSI LRN 4078675999 <(407)%20867-5999> State FL Rate Center ORLANDO LATA 458 OCN 382G Company TERRA NOVA TELECOM, INC. - FL Request Timestamp 2017-04-13 16:40:19
*Nick Olsen* Sr. Network Engineer Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x106 <(321)%20205-1100> <http://twitter.com/flhsi>
<https://twitter.com/flhsi> <https://facebook.com/flhighspeed>
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We?ve used similar tool from www.cidname.com. We tried bulk911, but the data didn?t seem to be live dips. CIDName shows instantly when we NPAC Activate a port. Adam From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Tim Jackson Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 3:52 PM To: Christopher Aloi Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] LRN API Source These guys have accurate data and are cheap: http://www.bulk911.com/cnam.html -- Tim On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Christopher Aloi <ctaloi at gmail.com> wrote: I wrote a similar internal tool using https://www.everyoneapi.com/ We've been using it for a few years and have never had any issues. I've also hit the API with some bulk requests and the results are great. +13212051100 <tel:(321)%20205-1100> Name: Florida High Speed Internet | Internet Services CNAM: FLHSI Line Type: landline Line Provider: Hook Mobile (Sybase) () Current Carrier: Terra Nova Telecom (382G) Original Carrier: tw telecom (7635) Location: 1311 Bedford Dr Melbourne FL 329401975 Gender: Education: Occupation: On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 4:41 PM Nick Olsen <nick at flhsi.com> wrote: Greetings all, We've got an internal tool that lets my NOC staff query extended LRN on numbers. They use this for checking the numbers current carrier, Verifying a number after it ports (In or out)..etc. This same tool also pulls CNAM from a few sources so they can easily test "Wrong caller ID" tickets. Does anyone have any good leads on someone that has a good non-cached LRN API? We've tried two thus far with poor results. 1. "CallWithUs", Real time results, But cached for 24 hours after the first request. So if we wanted to check a number more then once a day, We get the same results. 2. ThinQ. Results returned are either cached, Or perhaps outdated. Querying a number after it ports returns the old LRN. Results do not update until 24 hours after port. Since we have a decent bit of traffic on ThinQ, And a decent relationship with them I opened a ticket to see if it could be a adjusted. First was told that LRN takes 24 hours to update. And that was normal. I pushed back on the obvious canned and incorrect response and they "made some changes" which did nothing. Finally they admitted they could not return real-time results. Many of my upstream carriers are using Syniverse as their LRN source. So I reached out to them. Found my volume (~20 queries a day) is too low for them. And they don't offer any type of HTTP API, Understandably on both counts. Example output of our internal tool. (Queried 13212051100 <tel:(321)%20205-1100> ) Latest CNAM / LRN Lookup Refresh <http://noc.flhsi.com/did/3212051100/dip> (OPCN) CNAM FLHSI (Thinq) CNAM FLHSI LRN 4078675999 <tel:(407)%20867-5999> State FL Rate Center ORLANDO LATA 458 OCN 382G Company TERRA NOVA TELECOM, INC. - FL Request Timestamp 2017-04-13 16:40:19 Nick Olsen Sr. Network Engineer Florida High Speed Internet (321) 205-1100 x106 <tel:(321)%20205-1100> <http://twitter.com/flhsi> <http://twitter.com/flhsi> <http://twitter.com/flhsi> _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops <http://twitter.com/flhsi> _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps at voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops <http://twitter.com/flhsi> <http://twitter.com/flhsi>

I signed up for a bulk911 account to test (as this is something we have been looking for as well) They aren't live dips (the information is old info from several months ago) On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Adam Vocks <Adam.Vocks at cticomputers.com> wrote:
We?ve used similar tool from www.cidname.com.
We tried bulk911, but the data didn?t seem to be live dips. CIDName shows instantly when we NPAC Activate a port.
Adam
*From:* VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] *On Behalf Of *Tim Jackson *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2017 3:52 PM *To:* Christopher Aloi *Cc:* voiceops at voiceops.org *Subject:* Re: [VoiceOps] LRN API Source
These guys have accurate data and are cheap:
http://www.bulk911.com/cnam.html
--
Tim
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Christopher Aloi <ctaloi at gmail.com> wrote:
I wrote a similar internal tool using https://www.everyoneapi.com/ We've been using it for a few years and have never had any issues. I've also hit the API with some bulk requests and the results are great.
+13212051100 <(321)%20205-1100>
Name: Florida High Speed Internet | Internet Services
CNAM: FLHSI
Line Type: landline
Line Provider: Hook Mobile (Sybase) ()
Current Carrier: Terra Nova Telecom (382G)
Original Carrier: tw telecom (7635)
Location: 1311 Bedford Dr Melbourne FL 329401975
Gender:
Education:
Occupation:
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 4:41 PM Nick Olsen <nick at flhsi.com> wrote:
Greetings all,
We've got an internal tool that lets my NOC staff query extended LRN on numbers. They use this for checking the numbers current carrier, Verifying a number after it ports (In or out)..etc. This same tool also pulls CNAM from a few sources so they can easily test "Wrong caller ID" tickets.
Does anyone have any good leads on someone that has a good non-cached LRN API?
We've tried two thus far with poor results.
1. "CallWithUs", Real time results, But cached for 24 hours after the first request. So if we wanted to check a number more then once a day, We get the same results.
2. ThinQ. Results returned are either cached, Or perhaps outdated. Querying a number after it ports returns the old LRN. Results do not update until 24 hours after port. Since we have a decent bit of traffic on ThinQ, And a decent relationship with them I opened a ticket to see if it could be a adjusted. First was told that LRN takes 24 hours to update. And that was normal. I pushed back on the obvious canned and incorrect response and they "made some changes" which did nothing. Finally they admitted they could not return real-time results.
Many of my upstream carriers are using Syniverse as their LRN source. So I reached out to them. Found my volume (~20 queries a day) is too low for them. And they don't offer any type of HTTP API, Understandably on both counts.
Example output of our internal tool. (Queried 13212051100 <(321)%20205-1100>)
Latest CNAM / LRN Lookup Refresh <http://noc.flhsi.com/did/3212051100/dip>
(OPCN) CNAM
FLHSI
(Thinq) CNAM
FLHSI
LRN
4078675999 <(407)%20867-5999>
State
FL
Rate Center
ORLANDO
LATA
458
OCN
382G
Company
TERRA NOVA TELECOM, INC. - FL
Request Timestamp
2017-04-13 16:40:19
*Nick Olsen*
Sr. Network Engineer
Florida High Speed Internet
(321) 205-1100 x106 <(321)%20205-1100>
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Adam.Vocks@cticomputers.com
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ctaloi@gmail.com
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jeff+voiceops@waddellsolutions.com
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nick@flhsi.com