nods but for companies of that size, the tooling exists (and in the open source community) to detect the DDoS attacks and drop only the BGP peers presenting harm, forcing it through the scrubbers. That approach lets you keep better-performing, higher-reliability routes the rest of the time. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com From: "Nick Olsen" <nick@141networks.com> To: "Mike Hammett" <voiceops@ics-il.net> Cc: "Brian Knight" <ml@knight-networks.com>, "VoiceOps" <voiceops@voiceops.org> Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2026 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Re: Internet Exchanges My "Guess" is that because they are relatively low traffic they pass up IX's to have less points of entry. Makes it easier to put behind cloudflare when a DDoS hits. My endpoints are also in 40160. And I hold two BGP sessions with 40160 via private circuits. They're in a lot of locations too. Likely due to needing local facilities for TDM connectivity. So it's not for a lack of being near IX's. On 2026-11-05 10:04, Mike Hammett via VoiceOps wrote: Ah, I see that now and one Sinch is the customer of the other Sinch. My Sinch endpoints are in 40160. I don't understand inconsistent peering approaches even more than the lack of peering. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com From: "Brian Knight" <ml@knight-networks.com> To: "Mike Hammett" <voiceops@ics-il.net>, "VoiceOps" <voiceops@voiceops.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2026 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Re: Internet Exchanges Sinch operates ASN 5715 as well https://www.peeringdb.com/net/18244 On 2026-11-04 13:34, Mike Hammett via VoiceOps wrote: https://www.peeringdb.com/net/18236 Sinch is only on three https://www.peeringdb.com/net/8270 Telnyx isn't on any https://www.peeringdb.com/net/1835 Bandwidth is only on four ----- Mike Hammett Fiber Data Internet Exchange DNA Communications From: "Carlos Alvarez via VoiceOps" <voiceops@voiceops.org> To: "VoiceOps" <voiceops@voiceops.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2026 12:37 PM Subject: [VoiceOps] Re: Internet Exchanges Seems common to me, why do you think it's rare? We have servers in a facility with handoffs to several carriers. We can pay to peer directly with a cross connect, but stopped doing that and just depend on the "free" switching fabric in the datacenter. On Nov 4, 2026 at 10:41:47 AM, Mike Hammett via VoiceOps <voiceops@voiceops.org> wrote: Why is it rare for voice networks to have a meaningfully well peered data network, including Internet exchanges? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list -- VoiceOps@voiceops.org https://lists.voiceops.org/postorius/lists/voiceops.voiceops.org/ To unsubscribe send an email to voiceops-leave@voiceops.org _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list -- VoiceOps@voiceops.org https://lists.voiceops.org/postorius/lists/voiceops.voiceops.org/ To unsubscribe send an email to voiceops-leave@voiceops.org _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list -- VoiceOps@voiceops.org https://lists.voiceops.org/postorius/lists/voiceops.voiceops.org/ To unsubscribe send an email to voiceops-leave@voiceops.org